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Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2012 4:28 p.m. PST

Perry Miniatures for proving Historic plastics were not only feasible, but darn useful as well.

Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut29 May 2012 5:16 p.m. PST

Ganesha Games, for everything THW did only easy enough for brain-damaged people like me to understand and use…

epturner Inactive Member29 May 2012 5:18 p.m. PST

Perry Brothers, Inc.

And DAMN YOUR EYES release the bloody AWI range in plastic would you now!!!!



Personal logo Florida Tory Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2012 6:03 p.m. PST

And a second vote for Ganesha Games.


Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP29 May 2012 7:12 p.m. PST

I'd have to go with Warlord Games. The Perry's were very innovative with the plastics, which Warlord was also doing at nearly the same time, but they have also released a whole bunch of other stuff. They brought new ranges to market, re-marketed old and good ranges and released rule sets that are setting trends.

They have also managed to make all of their products marketable on the shelves on independent retailers, something the Perry's have not managed to do (I'm not sure they care, but they still haven't done it.) Provided retailers with sets that are not only truly bargains (like the Rorke's drift thing) but are also packaged in a way that makes them retailer friendly.

Their plastics aren't always top notch but some of them are and most of them are very good. They have expanded into a bunch of different, popular periods and continue to provide excellent product for those periods without abandoning their original projects.

Their cooperations with American companies has also been something exemplarary and has made their product more easily available on both sides of the pond.

I also hear that they are starting their own distribution company in the US. I can't testify to the truth of that but if true then not only are they innovative in the realm of figures, buildings, packaging of products and rules, they are also being innovative in how they are getting their products to market.

Sergeant Paper29 May 2012 9:46 p.m. PST

2HW, Ambush Alley, and Ganesha are tied in my mind – all put out great games. But I own more of Ed's…

Derek H Inactive Member29 May 2012 10:05 p.m. PST


Fat Wally29 May 2012 11:24 p.m. PST

Too Fat Lardies for me too.

Yesthatphil Inactive Member30 May 2012 3:26 a.m. PST

This is normally the sort of thread I would leave alone …

But I have to say that Pete from Baccus was showing me his latest 6mm stuff over a chat at Partizan. Including single-piece casting artillery. Now I was a little sceptical, so he dropped into my hand a little model which it was hard to imagine wasn't glued together. Having glued fiddly 6mm guns and train, I can see no downside to this.

So although I'm only an occasional customer (just my Zulu wars project, at the moment) I think Baccus deserves an innovation tick for redefining 6mm.

Personal logo Toy Soldier Green Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2012 6:05 a.m. PST

Angel Barracks
Khurasan Miniatures

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2012 6:32 a.m. PST

Knuckleduster War of 1812 for the best and ever expnading range of War of 1812 figures.

richarDISNEY Inactive Member30 May 2012 7:39 a.m. PST

With that 300 club, as long as they got backers, they made the figs.
Kind of a precursor to Kickstarter…

Personal logo Miniatureships Sponsoring Member of TMP30 May 2012 8:08 a.m. PST

Are we confusing innovative with personal likes? Historical being done in plastics maybe new and something some gamers like, but innovative? Games Workshop has been making plastic miniatures for sometime.

Even if it is true that Warlords is forming their own US distribution company, that is neither new or innovative since Battlefront and GW have already done that sort of thing with their miniature lines. And, seeing that the latter two have some ties to GW, I would say they are just borrowing from GW's play book.

To me, the most innovative company or game designer would be Peter Gilder who changed the way miniatures looked. He gave miniatures animation as well as a styling that took them beyond the old standard toy soldier look. The designers to follow him have taken that innovation and smoothed out the rough edges.

The next innovation would be companies like Old Glory giving us variants. What company would make it now if they only offered one marching pose, one advancing pose and one firing pose? The consumer wants variants.

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2012 9:12 a.m. PST

Too Fat Lardies.

Their stuff is different and clever!

corporalpat Inactive Member30 May 2012 10:51 a.m. PST

Rules: Too Fat Lardies for not sticking to the usual rule mechanics.
Miniatures: Khurasan for not sticking to the traditional ranges.

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2012 11:45 a.m. PST

Ambush Alley for innovative rule sets I actually enjoy using.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2012 11:46 a.m. PST

Perry & Warlord for me as well.

Grand Duke Natokina Inactive Member30 May 2012 3:15 p.m. PST

Plastic Soldier Company for bringing WWII out for many scales and doing it fairly quickly.

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP30 May 2012 4:18 p.m. PST

Good grief folks -- look up the word "innovative"?
Plastic soldiers are not innovative
Getting into distribution is not innovative
Distributing in another country is not innovative -- (OG has had a warehouse in UK for 20 years)
A war of 1812 line of figures is certainly not innovative
Simply doing a specific scale is not innovative.
Perrys --?? they make good figures like alot of other people --but so what -- there still just figures.

How about Gordan and Haugue -- nice little concept there? I would say very innovative.
What about the OG army card and also a discount to retail shops that no one in the industry matchs?
How about a one stop shop for almost any period in multiple scales including buildings, forts,castles,ships,cars, trucks,tanks,wagons,etc,etc,etc and all this with keeping a commitment to the lowest possible price? (OG)
Russ Dunaway

Early morning writer Inactive Member04 Jul 2012 8:29 a.m. PST

Well, I was going to vote for Blue Moon but they've voted themselves into the running, backwards, but in. Still my favorite out there. Where else can you go for such stunning variety in scale and period and get structures to match the ranges of figures? And not just for one period but for one right after another – and they keep bringing out more.

I for one am wondering what they will add to there just released 18 mm Musketeer range. Maybe nothing – but maybe something. They've sure made me happy and my wallet lighter the last few years.


Scorpio Inactive Member04 Jul 2012 8:40 a.m. PST


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