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nothing18 May 2012 10:05 a.m. PST

We are now taking PRE-ORDERS on our first 28mm release…the Sadoukadi Greatcoats!

"Born of hard conflict and drawn out wars of attrition, the Greatcoats of Sadoukad-16 are the embodiment of the foot slogger. From frozen arctic wastelands, to burnt out cities, to sulfuric trench-laden fields of mud, the legions of great-coated warriors are able to adapt to a variety of battlefield environments. Drawing upon what some would call "antiquated" equipment, their strength lies in their vast numbers."


*** PRE ORDER INFO ***

These 28mm multi-part figures are cast in white metal. Each pack contains enough parts to build 10 figures and includes the following:

5 standard heads
5 heads, goggles up
5 heads goggles down
10 torsos
10 sets of arms, multiple poses
10 sets of legs, multiple poses
Alternate squad leader arms
2 extra weapons: Grenade Launcher & Flamethrower


Reduced pricing on all PRE ORDERS !
Release Date: mid-June.

PRE-ORDER NOW!

nothing18 May 2012 10:29 a.m. PST

28mm at the eyes.

Here's a few comparison pics with an earlier version. New pics will be coming soon.

Lampyridae18 May 2012 11:45 a.m. PST

Proof that Squats never went away.

They got a shave and went to Cadia.

Seriously, though, good enough to use alongside Hasslefree.

nothing18 May 2012 12:47 p.m. PST

Some additional pictures…

Oninotaki18 May 2012 1:16 p.m. PST

These are sweet!

Charles Marlow18 May 2012 4:39 p.m. PST

I like them. Do all the heads have the bandana mask?

nothing18 May 2012 4:44 p.m. PST

Yes, it's actually meant to be a balaclava.

Redroom19 May 2012 5:20 a.m. PST

I like the proportions of your weapons a lot, look realistic.

Lion in the Stars19 May 2012 6:05 a.m. PST

Dang, I might need to get a set of those… Are the weapons available as separate bits?

I really don't like the PanO guns for Infinity, but I'd play them if I had some guns to swap around.

nothing19 May 2012 6:53 a.m. PST

If things go well, I hope to have the weapons and heads available separately by the end of the summer.

dwartist19 May 2012 9:35 a.m. PST

ordered!

tnjrp22 May 2012 3:23 a.m. PST

Look nice enough and well done even tho not too inspired. But is a Cadian really only 28mm to the top of the head?

(I make fun of others)22 May 2012 7:05 a.m. PST

Erm, which one in the comparison pictures is yours?

nothing22 May 2012 1:43 p.m. PST

In the middle.

(I make fun of others)23 May 2012 6:49 a.m. PST

Thanks. Why the tiny head?

Falkenhayn24 May 2012 1:07 a.m. PST

those are nice,placed my Order!

tnjrp24 May 2012 1:53 a.m. PST

porfirio rubirosa 23 May 2012 7:49 a.m. PST:

Why the tiny head?
The picture angle and the traditonally big-headed-and-stocky AKA "heroic" GW models being contrasted with conspire to make it difficult to say if the MR guy is really pinheaded or not. I'd say probably not. An adult human is about 7.5-8 heads tall, depending on if you want to go for more idealist or more average/realistic.

(I make fun of others)24 May 2012 6:05 a.m. PST

I think the camera angle, if anything, is making the head look larger because it is shot slightly from above, rather than the other way round. Even without looking at the pumpkin-headed plastic guardsman, the head of this model simply looks too small. The proportions just seem off, the model is too tall and thin, and the body proportions just get slenderer as it goes up til you get to the little head.

The Death Korp chap next to him has excellent proportions OTOH. Notice that at ground level the MR model is thicker than the Death Korp model, but by the time one gets to the waist and chest it seems to be equal or even thinner.

It does seem to be too tall compared to the other soldiers, so wouldn't mix well with other models. This is a recurring problem with Mad Robot, the 15s are also too big to mix.

Finally the design seems a mishmash of Modern/NF looks and gothic sci-fantasy, although it's not really too bad here, not nearly as bad as the awful greatcoats made by Wargames Factory with their "designed by committee" look.

Sounds rather harsh I know but I really, really wanted to love these.

tnjrp24 May 2012 8:39 p.m. PST

porfirio rubirosa 24 May 2012 7:05 a.m. PST:

I think the camera angle, if anything, is making the head look larger because it is shot slightly from above
It also makes it somewhat difficult to tell how tall the figure actually is compared to the size of the head.

The proportions just seem off, the model is too tall and thin, and the body proportions just get slenderer as it goes up til you get to the little head
I don't really agree here, the shoulders look fairly well to the scale with the rest of the body. The arms OTOH do seem a little oversized (might again be a camera angle thing) and even given copious amount of leg armour, the feet are likely also quite large.

Otherwise I don't want to say much more about the anatomy unless I see a mini pictured from the side (which is roughly how one commonly tends to see living people after all).

The Death Korp chap next to him has excellent proportions OTOH
It's quite good for a GW model certainly (OK it's really a Forgeworld mini IIRC) but I suspect the head would still oversized IRL if we'd get a decent shot from the side – the hands certainly are huge.

Notice that at ground level the MR model is thicker than the Death Korp model, but by the time one gets to the waist and chest it seems to be equal or even thinner.
Not sure I do, actually. I see (improbably) massive leg armour on the MR model, compared to none of DK one tho.

It does seem to be too tall compared to the other soldiers, so wouldn't mix well with other models
I'm not sure if it's meant to or needs to mix well with GW models, but I agree that since so many people want "not-Imperial-Guard", it might stand to reason from commercial viewpoint to make minis with certain aesthetic more compatible in size (and even body dimensions) with GW stuff.

Finally the design seems a mishmash of Modern/NF looks and gothic sci-fantasy, although it's not really too bad here
Agreed, this is why I mentioned they don't look "too inspired". The weapon options are also prehaps the most obvious ones. And not really keen on the greatcoat idea either, but I suspect this is another case of something certain people just can't get enough of (-:)

Sounds rather harsh I know but I really, really wanted to love these.
I OTOH had no reason whatsoever to expect to either love or hate these beforehand. And even now that I've seen them they inspire no great feeling in me either way. Not something I'm likely to buy, regardless of the size (which might fit in with Infinity figs for example – incidentally it might be good to see a comparison shot with those, even from the same downward angle) and possible anatomical issues.

nothing25 May 2012 4:44 a.m. PST

The pictures aren't meant to show an exact, measured demonstration of height. They're meant to give a basic idea of how they might look when standing next to some other figures that people may already have.

Sounds rather harsh I know

Your criticisms were warranted…3 months ago. As I indicated right above those pictures, they were showing an earlier version of the figure. Since then, adjustments were made to address the proportions and height.

I really, really wanted to love these

Based on what? You were critical of the only pictures I've ever posted of them. What exactly made you want to "really, really love them"?

tnjrp28 May 2012 12:38 a.m. PST

Mad Robot 25 May 2012 5:44 a.m. PST:

As I indicated right above those pictures, they were showing an earlier version of the figure. Since then, adjustments were made to address the proportions and height.
Hopefully you didn't make them stocky and big-headed (-:)

(I make fun of others)29 May 2012 5:29 a.m. PST

Since then, adjustments were made to address the proportions and height.

Ah, I see that now. But of course you did post pictures of these models, and you did not specify what modifications were being made. So what were we left to gather from this?

Based on what? You were critical of the only pictures I've ever posted of them.

Erm, you've been talking about these since summer of last year. I noticed it on your blog being discussed in the summer of 2011, then saw these. Do I have permission to look forward to them now?

nothing29 May 2012 9:16 a.m. PST

So what were we left to gather from this?

Nothing, I posted them in direct response to Terrement's request.

Do I have permission to look forward to them now?

No.

(I make fun of others)29 May 2012 10:37 a.m. PST

Well, there's that sorted then! Consider it done, happy to oblige.

Oninotaki02 Jun 2012 6:21 p.m. PST

Price has been reduced to $25 USD preorder, $30 USD regular price! Was $40 USD pre-order $50 USD regular.

dwartist06 Jun 2012 8:58 a.m. PST

I thought for a moment I'd wandered onto a Defiance Games thread by mistake…..I think they look ok and have ordered a set.

nothing18 Jun 2012 5:11 p.m. PST

While I wait for the painter to complete his work, I thought I would post an assembled figure to show what they look like. All I've done to it is give it a light coat of primer.


Sorry it's only one mini but it's all I had left to assemble after sending out the painter's squad.

link

mech dude18 Jun 2012 7:37 p.m. PST

I think those came out excellently. Happy to see that the "grain" in the previous pictures is just an effect of light scattering on the metal.

These look great and I can't wait to see them in person.

isdblues19 Jun 2012 4:32 a.m. PST

I hate GW for making us think that all 28's should have big heads.

I think the remastered one looks quite tidy.

On a side note – are you getting any Harook back in stock any time soon?

dwartist19 Jun 2012 5:10 a.m. PST

that looks really nice!

tnjrp19 Jun 2012 9:54 p.m. PST

isdblues 19 Jun 2012 5:32 a.m. PST

I hate GW for making us think that all 28's should have big heads
I've been told on this very forum that big heads look better on people…

It does looks a bit like MR have slightly enlarged the heads of the troopers. The posture of the latest pictured mini makes it difficult to say by how much but I'd say the size of the head might now be closer to 1/6 of the full figure height as opposed to roughly 2/15 which is roughly the human IRL norm. Also, the hands are more to the "classic 28mm minis style" which means they are oversized. But these complaints are minor, it's mostly the aesthetic that does not appeal to me instead of the anatomy.

nothing30 Jun 2012 7:07 a.m. PST

As we prepare for the official release of the Sadoukadi Greatcoats, we have decided to stop taking pre-orders after July 1st. After that you will have to wait a week or so to purchase them and then it will be at the normal $30 USD price. Get yours at the reduced price while you can!


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