| Cacique Caribe | 10 May 2012 2:45 a.m. PST |
I'm asking about the Cold War site shown here: YouTube link YouTube link There isn't all that much detail here in the following pics, but I'm not finding any really good ones: link link link
link link link QUESTIONS: Was that filmed in an actual silo site? Or was all of that done in a studio? If an actual site, is there a way to find out if there are additional pictures of the place, including layout? I really like all the cables and pipes running along the corridors and the peeling look on those walls. The walls have a greenish tint to them, as if mold has had plenty of time to grow (could be just the lighting though). And there's no grafitti too, which means it's been sealed from intruders. But what I like most are the watertight hatches and doors they used.* I would love to make something like that for 15mm. I think it would be awesome as an abandoned Area 51 underground complex. TMP link Thanks, Dan
* Do you think these might be useful for such a project?
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| MajorB | 10 May 2012 2:49 a.m. PST |
Pretty impressive for a trainers factory!!  Seriously though if you want to see what a Cold War bunker actually looked like go here:
link |
| Coelacanth1938 | 10 May 2012 3:33 a.m. PST |
It appears to have been shot mostly in Bulgaria link My guess is that that the Bulgarian government probably just let them use an old Cold War military base. |
| 14th Brooklyn | 10 May 2012 4:49 a.m. PST |
Judging by the photos this was filmed on a set stage. |
| Grelber | 10 May 2012 5:00 a.m. PST |
Definitely not a Minuteman or Peacekepper ICBM launch facility or LCF. Titan ICBMs seem to have had more spacious facilities. Photos of a Titan silo here: link Grelber |
| Cacique Caribe | 10 May 2012 8:37 a.m. PST |
Thanks a million guys. So studio it is then!!! QUESTION How would you "weather" moldy concrete, in a tunnel terrain system, so as to give it the look that it hasn't been occupied by anyone for 30-30 years? I would love to see pics of how this was done for miniatures. Thanks, Dan |
| CAPTAIN BEEFHEART | 10 May 2012 11:11 a.m. PST |
Water, plant life and anything rusting seems to be the way to go for concrete. Lots of washes streaking from top to bottom. For fungus/mildew-blacks or olive drab gently dry brushes or dabbed with a Kleenex. Lighter greens along the water line. Just a thought. Best of luck on your new project. |
| Rhysius Cambrensis | 10 May 2012 11:31 a.m. PST |
I used to drive past that when I was at college – the sign always wound me up though "Secret Nuclear Bunker ->" No its not!!! |
| Black River | 10 May 2012 12:24 p.m. PST |
Weathering as Captain Beefheart stated. You could also use the pastel/chalk method. Just file some artist chalks into a small pile & use your brush to apply the powder to the areas you want weathering. |
 Doctor X  | 10 May 2012 12:46 p.m. PST |
There is an abandoned Nike site a few miles from my house. You are welcome to come over and investigate but bring your scuba gear and a blowtorch because the site was flooded then sealed shut. Although I believe some industrious teenagers have made their way in a few times over the last few decades. Not that I would know anything about that… |
| Sumatran Rat Monkey | 10 May 2012 12:54 p.m. PST |
I just wanna know how you made it that far into that truly horrible waste of celluloid, CC?! Seriously, I have a deep and abiding love for (good) zombie movies, born of being fairly traumatized by the original Night/Dawn back in my formative years, and as a result, I've sat through some truly terrible films in my quest for the odd gem… and the Day of the Dead de-make was definitely one of the worst selections of those films with something approaching an actual budget/recognizable casts. Although, in all fairness,I did finish it- something that can't be said for the truly excremental "Day of the Dead 2: Contagion" some random dude made with a dozen of his friends and some willing breast implants… - Monk |
| Scorpio | 10 May 2012 1:44 p.m. PST |
You are welcome to come over and investigate but bring your scuba gear and a blowtorch because the site was flooded then sealed shut. That's a ready-made pulp scenario by itself! |
| Cacique Caribe | 10 May 2012 4:19 p.m. PST |
Captain Beefheart: "Lots of washes streaking from top to bottom. For fungus/mildew-blacks or olive drab gently dry brushes or dabbed with a Kleenex. Lighter greens along the water line." Excellent suggestions! Now, for the lighter greens, are they for above or below the waterline? --------------------- Black River: "You could also use the pastel/chalk method. Just file some artist chalks into a small pile & use your brush to apply the powder to the areas you want weathering" Do I seal in the pastel/chalk powder afterwards? If so, what do you recommend? --------------------- Doctor X: "You are welcome to come over and investigate but bring your scuba gear and a blowtorch because the site was flooded then sealed shut." Yes!!! Where do you live? Seriously though, my wife would kill me if I went exploring like that again, like I used to. My brother and I almost got trapped in an early 19th century mine cave-in when we were barely out of our teens. No one but a handful of people knew what we were up to either. Teens always think they are immortal, right? --------------------- Sumatran Rat Monkey: "I just wanna know how you made it that far into that truly horrible waste of celluloid, CC?!" LOL. As some of you already know, I really don't like zombie movies (the undead type – living infected ragers ok). The only reason I watched any part of it was because my nephew was watching it and the weathered base corridors caught my attention, close to the end of the film. I thought how cool the weathering would look on terrain. And, don't worry, I have no interest in going back and watching the previous portion of the film. Thanks, Dan |
| CAPTAIN BEEFHEART | 11 May 2012 11:19 a.m. PST |
As far as the green above below, I know only above because it's nasty to stick your head in such stuff.
As to NIKE sites in general…they are above ground with concrete pits to house the missles. NIKEs were SAMs that were obsolete before they were built. My Dad had a hand in constructing such a Site locally. I saw what was left of it when I was working with the 2010 census. They were designed as a backstop to the USANG f-102/106 units. No need to skulk 6 stories underground.
…So what, concrete underground sites can be cool…as long as the government didn't abandon them first. My old employer (FRB Boston) used an abandoned back-up bomber command center to store records in up to about the 90's. Now THAT was a BUNKER. Sad to say the only cool stuff was 55 gal drums stocked with air-raid crackers.
The free press had a ball speculating about what REALLY went on there. It was eventually sold to someone at a very reasonable price. I would have loved to own it.
Bottom line is, keep the look but change the McGuffin. |
| flooglestreet | 11 May 2012 9:10 p.m. PST |
Kind of ditto about what Captain Beefheart said about Nike sites. Nike Hercules was housed in an "underground bunker. It wasn't very deep and it certainly was not a silo. It was a rectangular affair which held the launch rail on a platform. The platform was raised to the surface for firing. There was also Nike Ajax, an earlier SAM. I don't believe it was ever on an underground launch site. I visited a Nike site when I was old enough to be reassured that they had chocolate milk in the mess hall. It looked like any other army installation except that it had launch rails for Ajax, or concrete doors for the Hercules launch platforms. It did not look like the site in the movie at all. You might like the underground lab floorplan here. link
It is a paper hex map more or less based on an underground missle silo. |
| Cacique Caribe | 13 May 2012 10:48 a.m. PST |
Flooglestreet, I love that pic, and the description!!!
I'm definitely tempted. I wonder if the plans could be used to build an actual 3-D version of such a facility. Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 28 May 2012 4:52 p.m. PST |
Has anyone ever used one of those Steve Jackson maps to make a 3d version of the complex for 15mm? If so, I'd love to see some pics of that! Thanks, Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 28 May 2012 10:21 p.m. PST |
These color schemes look nice too:
Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 06 Jun 2012 6:01 p.m. PST |
I guess that not all abandoned bases have the same aura. Check out this 2008 "Cities of the Underworld" episode on "Secret Soviet Bases": YouTube link On a different note . . . a really weird note . . . Can you imagine if there was a Soviet equivalent of Area 51 and, as the base was evacuated, the alien Greys were entombed and abandoned? Would that be a cool gaming scenario?
link link Dan |
| Steve Trustrum | 07 Jun 2012 5:23 a.m. PST |
lots of silo floorplans: link |
| alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 07 Jun 2012 6:09 a.m. PST |
Jesus, the first link from CC under the pic of the grey in the tunnel – is that guy for real? He has a raft of degrees, yet seems to be the most  loopy nutjob I've seen in ages! |
| Steve Trustrum | 07 Jun 2012 7:52 a.m. PST |
If you think he's the most loop nutjob, you need to visit timecube.com |
| Cacique Caribe | 07 Jun 2012 10:28 a.m. PST |
Yep. There's a lot of crazies out there. Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 07 Jun 2012 6:11 p.m. PST |
But he did have that awesome pic of an alien in an abandoned base!!! Dan |
| alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 08 Jun 2012 3:08 a.m. PST |
pah that was me on a weekend visit Dan – not that there aren't a lot of us here already though…. |
