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the trojan bunny08 May 2012 9:02 p.m. PST

What vehicles were used most frequently by the Rhodesian armed forces in the brush war? I want to do some convoy type games…

Kaoschallenged08 May 2012 10:06 p.m. PST

Here ya go. Hope this helps. Robert

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Sparker08 May 2012 10:57 p.m. PST

Thanks Robert, great site.

Ferrets – Yay!

I'm sure the odd FV432 could have turned up too…..

Andoreth08 May 2012 10:57 p.m. PST

One photograph I have of a military convoy shows it being headed by a Pig, one of the locally produced APCs based I think on a Unimog chassis. This is followed by a Unimog with a box body, presumably a command and control vehicle which is in turn followed by a flat bed Unimog carrying troops and then a mixture of transport venicles including at least one Bedford truck. Convoys would also be led by a mine clearance vehicle such as a Kudu, a heavily modified Landrover.

Civilian vehicles were frequently formed into convoys in dangerous areas. In one photograph such a convoy is headed by a white Landrover mounting two 30cal MGs. The convoy itself consists of assorted vans and trucks and even a car pulling a caravan.

GeoffQRF09 May 2012 1:08 a.m. PST

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UR-416, Eland, Ferret, Bullet, Vaporizer, Crocodile…

Of course finding those could be fun.

Khusrau09 May 2012 4:01 a.m. PST

There is a fabulous army museum in Jo'burg which includes a coverted Rhodesian Leopard with a VW Bug engine sitting in a circular frame so it could roll over and with detachable (blown off?) wheels:

Leopard

Yesthatphil09 May 2012 9:11 a.m. PST

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This chopped down Unimog from my AK47 collection is based on a Rhodesian original (including the rack of RCL's on the back!)

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(heavily modified Peter Pig 15mm model and figures)

Phil
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Prof Pate09 May 2012 9:43 a.m. PST

The main troop carrying vehicles were MAP45 and 75, Puma and Crocodile – all mine protected (for the period) often produced in both Army and Police versions as well a cut down for Axillary Security Force. There were some modified Bedfords and Land-rover series 2A (mostly) will very limited mine protection.

Some very specific APCs were produced – such at the Bullet and MICV (I think) all based on old unimog chassis, the latter set some mine protection standards for future SA vehicles having a monocoque hull and was turreted (HMG)

I think there were 8 or 12 ferrets, as many again if not more elands – mostly 90s from RSA. The only fully tracked vehicles were 1 ex-WWII Bren carrier and eight T55 impounded in a 'friendly' port.

Quite a few in 15 P/Pig and others) and 20 (RHMODELS)- sorry to anyone missed. No TCV in 28mm-1/56 that I'm aware of, but we [Force of Arms] have Elands and T55 AND…

All best John FoA :D

Kaoschallenged09 May 2012 11:09 a.m. PST

There may be some helpful photos here,
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I thought that the link I had posted before would have been helpful GeoffQRF wink. Robert

Andy ONeill09 May 2012 11:56 a.m. PST

Dunno so much about regular vehicles but they had some weird mine detecting ones – the pookie.

Kaoschallenged09 May 2012 12:58 p.m. PST

Yup. Its certainly an odd one for sure. Robert

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GeoffQRF09 May 2012 1:27 p.m. PST

Doh, sorry Robert.

the trojan bunny09 May 2012 2:15 p.m. PST

Thanks for all the info everyone! Now to start hunting for these in 15mm. Peter Pig and QRF seems like good starting points. Any other suggestions?

Kaoschallenged09 May 2012 3:10 p.m. PST

Tis no worry GeoffQRF grin. And the Pookie looks like a scaled up lawnmower or scaled down harvesting combine laugh Robert

Yesthatphil09 May 2012 4:01 p.m. PST

Peter Pig and QRF seems like good starting points.

Good timing, too … Martin at PP recently added 'professionals in shorts' to his AK range

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Nice topic – thanks for bringing it up

Phil

Andy ONeill10 May 2012 6:43 a.m. PST

The Pookie was made using parts from the VW camper and formula 1 racing tyres.
The tyres because they're dead wide and spread pressure.
I read about it in some history mag a while back and it was so weird it stuck in my head.

GeoffQRF10 May 2012 7:00 a.m. PST

Here you go….

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(Obviously drawn from that same photo Robert!)

"…the Pookie drove on wide Formula-One tyres and achieved a ground pressure of 3 pounds per square inch, lighter than the human foot. Thus, the Pookie would not even detonate an anti-personnel landmine. The width of the tyres meant also that Pookie would span any landmine hole…"

the trojan bunny10 May 2012 10:19 a.m. PST

I didn't know PP had brought out Professionals in shorts! Might have to pick up a couple packs…

Goose66613 May 2012 1:21 p.m. PST

John from FOA has it right. As a rhodie I spent a while in some of them as a child.

The other vehicle often used was the old italian army unimogs and some old italian trucks. Though these were often used by the BSAP.

The pookie, was developed as an ultra low group pressure vehicle. The F1 racing tyres allowed it to have a ground pressure of hand that of an average soldier if memory serves. The side bars contain electra magnetic coils and volatage monitors I believe designed to help detect mines. The cab was armoured and V shaped to deflect a blast upward. the chasis was designed to desintegrate if it did detonate a mine and so dissapating shock and prevent transfer to the cab and driver. It was very effective. Saved my dad more than once!

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