| Jeff W | 07 May 2012 10:05 a.m. PST |
Here's hoping for June, see the image in the link- link Defiance posted up their roadmap for the coming months. For June, they have Maschinen Krieger looking hardsuits coming out that might make fantastic 15mm light mechs. One of the manufacturers indicates further down in the thread that they should stand about 40mm tall. |
| Eli Arndt | 07 May 2012 10:37 a.m. PST |
Is that the actual design they are using? If so they'll make pretty cool 15mm combat walkers. -Eli |
| Johny Boy | 07 May 2012 10:42 a.m. PST |
Absolutely have to have some of those, as you say, perfect combat suit/ walkers for 15mm, really capture the MAK look right on the head. Something to look forward to in June |
| Jeff W | 07 May 2012 10:44 a.m. PST |
@Eli & Johny- I hope its the actual design, I haven't seen any renders, but maybe those are lurking about on Defiance's site somewhere. |
| Eli Arndt | 07 May 2012 10:47 a.m. PST |
Well, let me ask. Did you license the design from the original artist and are you basing your models on that concept art? My concern is that the image is just a handy placeholder and not related to the actual miniature design at all. -Eli |
| Wolfprophet | 07 May 2012 1:07 p.m. PST |
So far as I can tell from the forum, they found some MaK style designs on DeviantArt and commissioned the artist. The artist was inspired by MaK, but his designs weren't direct copies and were inspired by another artist who also did MaK style designs. So, that should be the actual design concept. Key notifier being *should*. |
| Eli Arndt | 07 May 2012 1:22 p.m. PST |
That is a piece of art that existed before Defiance Games' project. I have been drooling over it for a long while and following that particular artist. It is cool that they commisioned him, hope the design is the same or close. -Eli |
| MiniatureReview | 07 May 2012 2:03 p.m. PST |
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| Richard Gaulding | 07 May 2012 2:23 p.m. PST |
Teh design was actually licensed from the artist. He goes by flyingdebris on deviantart. As far as I know, there aren't aren't any available renders, but there might be some behind the scenes. Here is the reference sheet for the sculpt, done by the artist:
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| Eli Arndt | 07 May 2012 3:34 p.m. PST |
Alright. I'm sold. Take all my money now! -Eli |
| Ron W DuBray | 07 May 2012 3:58 p.m. PST |
I just hope they make 2 hands and a shoulder mounted gun. |
| Defiance Games | 07 May 2012 4:09 p.m. PST |
OOH – Ouzel that is a great idea. We have the ability to have both with hands right now – and the optional shoulder missile launcher. But the idea to have an add on shoulder "other weapon" is fantastic. I'm adding that to the last minute sculpting list so it makes the set. Thanks!
Tony Tony Reidy
Defiance Games
defiancegames.com |
| Mutant Q | 07 May 2012 6:54 p.m. PST |
These are the ones I'm really looking forward to! |
| Splod89 | 07 May 2012 7:15 p.m. PST |
A june release for a product that hasn't made it past the concept sketch stage? Not to mention a concept sketch that has been in my 'pretty stuff' file for quite some time…
Excuse me for being skeptical, but I'd be surprised if we saw these before August. I'd love to see that sketch become reality, but I'll be waiting till I can see the minis. |
| McWong73 | 07 May 2012 9:06 p.m. PST |
Nice one Defiance Games. That's the first thing I've seen that really speaks to me (but then I'm an SF3D tragic). |
| Dogged | 07 May 2012 11:08 p.m. PST |
Now those hardsuits have gone straight to the "possible buy" list. I'd change the "optional shoulder gun" to just a grenade launcher/mortar kind of thing, a shoulder cannon would look awkward.
For fine handling, such a beast sure would have tinier mechanical pincers. For a heavier load, a second launcher would be a nicer option, be it a missile or an auto grenade launcher.
Nice project! |
| Johny Boy | 07 May 2012 11:38 p.m. PST |
I'm in for two box's when they arrive, superb! |
| Gunner Dunbar | 08 May 2012 3:52 a.m. PST |
Interesting to compare them with Khurasans Corsairs, to be honest if they are similiar I will support the dedicated 15mm manufacturer. |
| Rothgar | 08 May 2012 7:51 a.m. PST |
Love them.. I'll get a few. |
| Ron W DuBray | 08 May 2012 1:09 p.m. PST |
Tony Reidy You might like to read a book "A Hymn Before Battle" by John Ringo.
Your design makes me think of the armor in that book. Also if the main weapons are mounted high you can be in cover or prone and use them. Also only pistol sized/ammoed weapons are fired from the hand/arm effectively, bigger and full auto weapons need to be fired braced on the shoulder to be effective.(just ask any fire arms teacher):) The other problem I see with a gun set/built into the arm, the first time you dive for cover, trip and fall, you brake your gun or pack dirt down the barrels or into the works. |
| Pattus Magnus | 08 May 2012 1:31 p.m. PST |
Not sure how the layout will be for the parts, but how difficult would it be for Ouzel to build the kit with the main gun up high instead of on the arm? Given it will be plastic, that sort of conversions should be fairly simple anyway, but I know I would prefer it if the weapons fit could be moved around/adapted. Overall, I love the aesthetic of the design – looks like it means business and is churned out in the thousands… |
| Moqawama | 08 May 2012 3:04 p.m. PST |
"Interesting to compare them with Khurasans Corsairs", to be honest if they are similiar I will buy both and then find an "in-universe" reason for two different suits of so-similar powered armor to exist. Like, one power introduced them, rival power captured an intact suit and either retro-engineered a cheaper version or, alternatively, grabbed a few design secrets and then produced its own higher-technology answer to the new enemy weapon.
"You might like to read a book "A Hymn Before Battle" by John Ringo"
But, for the sake of good speculative fiction literature, also not. |
| Johny Boy | 08 May 2012 3:39 p.m. PST |
From a personal perspective one of the things I really like about this sculpt is the way the guns are set into the right arm unit, really gives the sculpt a strong MA.K feel, so please keep. Please just cast as is, absolutely winning design, I've a Guards Mech brigade that needs kitting up. Cheers |
| Richard Gaulding | 08 May 2012 10:42 p.m. PST |
For the record, these should be MUCH bigger than the Corsairs -- they are 28mm powered armor, so in 25mm scale they should be big enough to be a battlesuit or small mech. |
| Lfseeney | 08 May 2012 10:49 p.m. PST |
Need them in 15mm size.
Please. |
| Moqawama | 08 May 2012 11:09 p.m. PST |
Need them in 15mm size Seconded. |
| Rottenlead | 09 May 2012 12:42 p.m. PST |
Did someone say they would be made in 15mm scale? Really nice chunky design. |
| Sergeant Crunch | 09 May 2012 2:16 p.m. PST |
Even in only 28mm, they look like they could find a home as a light/medium walker in 15mm. |
| Johny Boy | 10 May 2012 1:36 p.m. PST |
Judging by a recent post of the Corsairs up against their Alien foes which evidently are stated to be 20mm in height (sorry carn,t remember the link) the Corsair suits would appear to come out at approx 35 – 40mm . Now looking at the above and assuming the figure height is 28mm, they would look to be similar size when released.I think both are going to be superb models and I will be adding both to my collection. |
| palaeoemrus | 12 May 2012 11:27 p.m. PST |
"to be honest if they are similiar I will buy both and then find an "in-universe" reason for two different suits of so-similar powered armor to exist." That's an easy one. One's Coke and the other is Pepsi. One is MS and the other is Apple. One's a Ford, and one's a Chevy. One's a Northrop Gruman, or maybe a Boeing, and one's a Lockheed Martin. Different manufacturers try to hit the same spec to win a government purchase contract. The winner get the army contract. The loser just retools their model a bit and tries to sell to the marines and the navy for shore patrols. If they succeed then you get two different suits in service with different branches. Then in a war you take whatever anyone can build so they start to mix models in the services. Soon you have jury rigged compatibility between the suits as mechanics try to keep them in action. So the manufacturers try to support this in new iterations of the suits. BTW the Khurasan Corsair Battle Dress are supposed to be about 35mm tall. Here they are shown with the 20mm tall Intruders.
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| palaeoemrus | 12 May 2012 11:32 p.m. PST |
BTW I like the weird Earthdoom naming scheme! Corsair vs. Intruder! Sounds like someone over at Khurasan had late 20th century navy ground attack jets on their mind! |
| Cdude93 | 13 May 2012 9:58 a.m. PST |
If I can get away with it, I'm gonna use these and the corsairs as palaeoemrus described, or possibly different projects by opposing factions. |
| Johny Boy | 13 May 2012 10:07 a.m. PST |
Really hoping these battlesuits are coming out on schedule!!!, any chance of sprue shots as the production work progresses? |
