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CptKremmen29 Mar 2012 5:22 a.m. PST

Any one know who makes this kind of thing now?

I think years ago it was Village Green? but I don't think their stuff is largely available anymore.

Need it in the UK.

I am off to check the Hovels website, any other recommendations greatly appreciated.

Ta

Andy

Disco Joe29 Mar 2012 5:36 a.m. PST

What about Grand Manner?

CptKremmen29 Mar 2012 6:29 a.m. PST

Wow!

Just checked out Grand manner I had not thought of them…

1st thoughts – the price!!

2nd thoughts – They look really nice.

I quite like the specific FIW stockade encampments, they seem to be sold with cool block houses which is very good.

What i don't like is the stockade does not have any kind of firing step, so you either have to fire from the block houses or open the gates?

Would that be correct? I would be much happier with firing steps….

Andy

WarWizard29 Mar 2012 6:48 a.m. PST

Redoubt Miniatures has a fortification for 28mm scale.

axabrax Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2012 7:03 a.m. PST

Old Glory stockades are much cheaper, especially with the army card. Grand Manner is awesome, but don't forget that price doesn't even include shipping, which is another whallop!

Disco Joe29 Mar 2012 7:03 a.m. PST

WarWizard, are you referring to the earth fort or the earth fort with redoubt?
Old Glory also carry a few forts and they do have firing steps.
And I have to agree they are nice and as stated with the Old Glory army card are reasonable.

Steve29 Mar 2012 7:15 a.m. PST

Acheson has a fort for cheap and it looks good (saw it in person at HCon last year)

achesoncreations.com

Steve

Rhino Co Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2012 8:47 a.m. PST

Buy some wooden chopsticks, cut, sharpen and build your own…

historygamer29 Mar 2012 9:47 a.m. PST

I'm trying to think of a fortified settlement that was attacked?

Conquest Miniatures Inactive Member29 Mar 2012 11:52 a.m. PST

What does it matter if one was attacked?

Hey CptKremmen, make sure instead of rolling dice, you place them down so as to dictate what was actually rolled during the actual battle your recreating, otherwise someone might raise questions.

CptKremmen29 Mar 2012 2:17 p.m. PST

I think there was fort Henry or other such forts that were deffinitely attacked.

I am sure many settlements were attacked though they had few defences?

I am kind of going for in between. Less than full blown fortress but enough to make the game interesting.

Not decided yet. I would like to get Village green but they are currently out of production.

WarWizard29 Mar 2012 2:54 p.m. PST

Actually I do not see the FIW fort on the Redoubt website anymore. Just the blockhouse.

historygamer29 Mar 2012 3:16 p.m. PST

Fort William Henry was a fort, not a fortified settlement. I think fortified settlements saw more attacks in the previous century.

I'm just saying, I can't think of one during the F&I. Maybe down south? Not as familiar with that theater.

A Twiningham Inactive Member30 Mar 2012 5:41 a.m. PST

Boonsboro a few years later. I think there were some attacked in the F&I period in the same region, but I can not recall the particulars at the moment.

historygamer30 Mar 2012 3:08 p.m. PST

Off the top of my head, most F&I battles took place in the wilderness or around Quebec. There was some raiding on the PA/VA frontier, but no villages, only individual cabins. I bought the Chartrand book on early fortifications and some of the early forts and fortified villages were pretty neat.

historygamer30 Mar 2012 3:09 p.m. PST

Just thinnking a bit more, I think there were some fortified blockhouses in western PA and VA during the Rev War, but not sure how many buildings included in them.

CptKremmen31 Mar 2012 2:01 p.m. PST

Don't worry i could not care less what was really attacked!

This is Hollywood Last of the Mohican stuff :)

historygamer31 Mar 2012 5:23 p.m. PST

have fun. :-)

AICUSV31 Mar 2012 7:38 p.m. PST

During the F&I period in PA, most of the "Forts" were simply stone houses. When I was a kid there was an old stone house not too far from us, that had firing slits built into the walls. Everyone called the place the Fort. In Frontier Forts of Pennsylvania it list many that were just such houses. link

I read an account were 3 men from the "Greens" made been sent to garrison one of these houses. To pay for their board they had to help the owner in his fields. One day when the soldiers and the farmer were in the fields working, they were attacked by a party of 6 to 8 Indians. The soldiers had left their muskets leaning against the fence at the far end of the field and the Indians wanted the muskets. Only the farmer's son was armed with a firearm and the Indians were also poorly armed. Both groups had to cross the field to get to the weapons. Always thought it would make for an interesting skirmish game.
Soldiers won, the Indians tried for the Muskets, but the farmer, his son, and the 3 soldiers went after the Indians.

AuttieCat Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2012 8:37 p.m. PST

Didn't Old Glory make one?

CptKremmen22 Apr 2012 11:53 a.m. PST

update for you guys, I am making my own out of balsa, modroc etc. Looking quite good, will not cost too much when finished but of course is taking vastly more time than a shop bought one.

In case anyone was interested just bought pegasus hobbies 2 X Russian log cabins. Although they claimm to be 1/72nd scale and Russian they look fine for 28mm FIW or AWI.

I paid £8.00 GBP for a box with 2 buildings in yesterday at Salute. The similar sized Perry/Renadra building was £15.00 GBP for 1….

Andy

Soldat22 Apr 2012 12:57 p.m. PST

I too have just started to build a Palisade. It's a great project as it will be a multi-period piece of terrain. I saw a nice log cabin at Michaels for $10.00 USD I'll probably pick that up. I'm making a couple of buildings out of dowels as well.

Come In Nighthawk22 Apr 2012 10:34 p.m. PST

If all you want is a "fortified settlement," then dowel from a craft store cut into lengths to make your own simple log cabins and the "palisade" sections would do. Make sure that the doors and windows of your cabins only front the interior of the stockade (windows and doors would be simple wooden shutter affairs). If you need a template, you could always buy one cabin from a vendor, and then use it as a "model" to build the rest on your own from dowel.

Arrange your cabins in a loose rectangle, and fill the "gaps" between cabins with short lengths of palisade. You probably do want a blockhouse, either in one corner of the stockade, or maybe in the center of it, as a "citadel" and "last resort" for the settler/colonist defenders. At most you only want two gates -- one for the track/roadway in, and a "water gate" leading to the nearby stream or river. Gates were the most vulnerable part of any simple stockade. As a final touch, drill small holes into the outer walls of the cabins and into the palisade sections; "loop holes" to defend the walls with musket fire. Good luck!

Loyalhanna05 Aug 2012 7:00 a.m. PST

Numerous forts and fortifications came under attack from 1755 to 1781. Fort Necessity,Fort William Henry,Fort Niagara,Fort Carillon(Ticondoroga),Fort Duquesne, and Fort Ligonier(Camp at Loyalhanna) from the FIW to mention a few. Fort Pitt,Detroit, and many other frontier forts came under attack or were taken in Pontiacs Rebellion. Many Forts were attacked during the AWI and on the western Pa. frontier, Hannastown,Fort Palmer, and some others saw action. We have a reconstructed blockhouse here in Latrobe by Saint Vincent College. You would not know it to be a blockhouse(traditional interpretations), if you saw it. It looks like a log house. Just food for thought. Caught this article late.
take care,
Keith

spontoon05 Aug 2012 8:34 a.m. PST

Try Frontline Wargaming!

cavcrazy05 Aug 2012 9:29 a.m. PST

I bought a Marx reproduction stockade from Hobby Bunker, and built balsa wood firing steps, it works great and the 1/32nd scale fort works great for 25/28mm figures.

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Aug 2012 11:44 p.m. PST

The Marx fort is actually from the Jungle Jim set but looks great for Early American. The Fort Apache fort is way too big.

cavcrazy06 Aug 2012 8:10 a.m. PST

No, it is a recast fort and I had to clip the "Fort Apache"sign from the top of the gate. I will post pictures of it, it is a fort Apache, but it is just the gate and fence sections, it didn't come with blockhouses or any interior building. I think you can still order it from Hobby Bunker.

cavcrazy06 Aug 2012 8:18 a.m. PST

After further research,I believe it is the fort that was meant for the 45mm fort Apache figures.

flagsofwar Inactive Member08 Aug 2012 2:03 a.m. PST

Warbases have a new MDF one.

link

xxSepsisxx Inactive Member09 Aug 2012 10:43 a.m. PST

You can do anything in the South Carolina back country. Plenty of fortified villages as well as the odd blockhouse. Fighting during the Cherokee War, the interwar Regulator movement, and the AWI.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Jul 2017 10:18 a.m. PST

Anyone got any updates on 28mm stockade forts for the FIW and AWI?

Maybe there are some laser cut models on the market since the original posting.

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