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Apache 603 Mar 2012 12:30 p.m. PST

Assuming a zombie apocalypse like that described below, what Island, Nation or region could maintain isolated sufficiently to survive for 25 years and what level of technology could/would they be able to maintain and build?

How about if they were 'reinforced' with a US Nuclear Sub, whose reactor has provided lots of power, and whose crew has provided a lot of technically savy engineers?

Considering this for background for a game series. "We have been isolated for 25 years and have survived because of it, but believe the infected have died out sufficiently that we are going to start scouting the mainland harvest resources."

Like my other post, think this would be interesting on a couple of levels, a 'nearly' RPG where the Governor, president/king/commander, and his ministers/commanders/ staff plan and decide what to do, and a series of 'skirmish games' playing out the actions of 'landing parties.'

Australia, Hawaii, Victoria B.C., Singapore and New Zealand are obvious, but they are large and have lots of visitors. I believe the Falkland Islands could survive indepently, and may be remote enough they could maintain a blockade? Where else? Bermuda? Islands in the Berring Sea? Could a rement of society survive on the oil platforms in Gulf of Mexico by fishing?

How many people and what level of technology could they retain. Would it be just sail boats and small arms, or could they maintain or build helicopters, flying boats, Landing Craft Mechanized (LCMs) and armored cars equipped with machine guns…

The contagion, believed to be a rabies mutation, results in "fast zombies" who retain a level of intelligence but act completely irrationally and attack unifected humans ferociesly with an intent to infect them. The disease can be transmitted through any type of fluid contact, and has a incubation period of between 8 hours and 5 days. It seems that at least 10% of the population is immune to the disease, it's not certain, but is believed that they can remain 'carriers.' The vast majority of the infected die within thirty days, but some are known to have survived at least three months.

You know there are bands of survivors ashore either held up in fortified areas or mobile groups and are in radio contact with several. They have to be ruthless to survive and are extremely unlikely to allow face to face contact with strangers. There are several well known stories of survivors being rescued, only to have the virus spread among the rescurers.

You've had communications with Ham Radio operators on remote islands and outposts throughout the world. Everyone remains understandably terrified of contact with the outside world, having survived due to their isolation.

GarrisonMiniatures03 Mar 2012 1:09 p.m. PST

Any population big enough to maintain a technological civilsation (maintain or build helicopters, flying boats, Landing Craft Mechanized (LCMs) and armored cars equipped with machine guns… ) would probably be big enough to be regularily visited and would therefore have the contagion. Any smaller one would not be able to maintain these in the long term. Apart from anything else, they would only have limited stocks of technology available.

Ones such as the Falklands are only apparently isolated – regular air flights by the RAF and ships passing by. Others, such as Singapore, are major centres of population with major airports and ports.

So with up to 5 days to incubate, and with a delay built in anyway before countries start closing their borders, I would say very little chance of a big enough uninfected population existing.

Stealth100003 Mar 2012 1:20 p.m. PST

Interesting. I think some nuk power submarines might make it. Dont think anyone would be able make more than very simple tech with scavanged bits.
Life would be hard. Think 18th century village, would be about it, with a few bits left over from the old golden age.

Luckyjoe03 Mar 2012 2:43 p.m. PST

I think the technology would probably have to be downgraded to simpler more sustainable levels. In the excellent "Ring of Fire" books by Eric Flint, a small town with modern technology is transported back in time to 1632 Germany. The townsfolk have a modern electrical plant, but lack the ability to sustain the modern parts they will eventually need for replacements, so they build a steam power plant, using technology and materials they can manufacture with their relatively limited local machine shops. Perhaps even a small island with similar resources could maintain a survivable level of technology the same way.

Ryan T03 Mar 2012 3:46 p.m. PST

Apache, you want to take Victoria (retirement capital of Canada) off your list. Half the population is already zombified, albeit with one foot in the grave instead of rising out of it.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2012 5:15 p.m. PST

Depends on the incubation period

I think with a short incubation period you might think about some of the Pacific Islands – while New Zealand gets some traffic, if there was a fairly short incubation period the Kiwis might keep them out – especially as I have been impressed by how the Kiwis respond to problems

Stryderg03 Mar 2012 8:31 p.m. PST

Haiti would create their own "slow shambling" zombies and counter-invade the USA…nah, that wouldn't work.

Some of the small islands off Florida might be a good starting point. With a sub available they could scavage parts off of oil rigs in the Gulf. The rigs couldn't support a civilization for very long (they're relatively small and don't have much in the way of food / water production facilities).

Klebert L Hall04 Mar 2012 7:36 a.m. PST

Puget Sound wouldn't be bad. Maybe Catalina. Newfoundland?

It's only 25 years. Plenty of left-over tech still to be had.
-Kle.

capncarp05 Mar 2012 7:50 a.m. PST

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