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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2012 2:56 p.m. PST

Beautifull job on this ship.

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Hope you enjoy!

Amicalement
Armand

CPT Jake02 Mar 2012 3:08 p.m. PST

That is nice!

MajorB03 Mar 2012 6:24 a.m. PST

Looks more like a galley than a brig.

A brig has two masts.

zippyfusenet03 Mar 2012 7:04 a.m. PST

Van Nuys.

Looks like one of the 'galleases' that Cortez had built on Lake Titicaca for the assault on the city of Tenochtitlan.

Zopenco 203 Mar 2012 8:22 a.m. PST

I suspect Tenochtitlan is out of range from Lake Titicaca

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2012 9:42 a.m. PST

Titicaca Lake is in Bolivia.

It's true that Hernan Cortés had build those ships for the atack of the Aztecas.

Amicalement
Armand

zippyfusenet04 Mar 2012 5:31 a.m. PST

Good points. Remind me what the lake in the valley of Mexico is called?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2012 11:29 a.m. PST

Texcoco lake.
At that stage of history, the Indians built artificial islands in the basement of the lagoon, in order to gain land for cultivation or in the case of Mexico-Tenochtitlan, to build settlements. In the seventeenth century, when the Spanish had already submitted the territories they called New Spain, the capital of the viceroyalty was the subject of countless floods. This motivated the construction of drainage works, continued by successive governments in the era of independent Mexico, this have led to the almost total disappearance of the five lakes that comprise the system. The lake basin of the valley of Mexico was formed by the lakes of Zumpango, Xaltocan, Texcoco, Xochimilco and Chalco. Occasionally we talk about the lake of Mexico, but this only when you mention the historical period in which the Indians built a dam between the Sierra de Guadalupe, north of Lake Texcoco, and Cerro de la Estrella, in southern thereof.
A unique feature of this system of lakes was the distinct character of its waters. While the lakes of Xochimilco and Chalco were lined up with fresh water, the waters of Texcoco, Zumpango and Xaltocan were brackish. In fact, the ancient inhabitants of the shores and islands of the latter three lakes were engaged in the exploitation of salt, obtained by evaporation of water from the lake. However, the water of the lakes of the Valley of Mexico was not beneficial to human life. The waters of the lakes of Texcoco, Zumpango and Xaltocan were not drinking by high salinity and fresh waters of Xochimilco and Chalco were not only beneficial for agriculture, the residues of plants and animals that populated the associated ecosystems were given bad taste. Thus, the people of Mexico-Tenochtitlan had to introduce a system of water supply to import liquid springs in.
That's why the spanish suffered so much when they became besieged. They began to drink the water of the lagoon and became sick.

Amicalement
Armand

Bowman04 Mar 2012 7:25 p.m. PST

Well said, Tango.

But the lakes making up Lake Texcoco were drying up for a millennia. This explains the abundance of fish and waterfowl adapted to higher saline water. Which the Aztecs fully exploited.

The city of Culhuacan expelled their troublesome Mexica mercenaries and allowed them to settle in the marshy island of the lake. This was fine with the Tepenec overlords, who needed the services of the warlike Mexica, but did not want them too close for comfort.

Two developments that allowed for a large urban population to eventually exist as the city of Tenochtitlan, was the building of aqueducts to bring fresh water and the development of chinampa style high density farming. Clever people.

Zippy's confusion about the lakes names might be due to the fact that Lake Titicaca is the mythical home of the Inca.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2012 9:18 p.m. PST

Thanks for your guidance my friend Bowman.
Where's you from?
If I can ask you that.

Amicalement
Armand

Bowman05 Mar 2012 5:43 a.m. PST

You may. I'm from the center of Canada. My interest is in combat techniques and tactics of the Meso-American and South American pre-Columbian people. Not much is written about that topic, in English, and I jest that not much reading needs to be done to become an "expert"wink

Not being able to read Spanish makes the research even harder.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP05 Mar 2012 9:29 a.m. PST

Good job my friend!.
It's always hard with other idiom.
You live in a beautifull country.
Are you near Fort William? That's de northest town I visited in Canada.

Amicalement
Armand

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