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Vice Admiral Rolland28 Feb 2012 11:20 a.m. PST

I have seen Ernst Barkmann's famous Panther (No. 424) modelled in various guises – some with 424 in black lettering and others in red – which is right?!
Two other questions, I know that the tank was part of the Das Reich division – apart from the No.424 on the turret and the German cross, did it have any other insignia? Finally, did it have zimmeritt applied to the armour and where?
Thanks

Mako1128 Feb 2012 11:34 a.m. PST

Not sure on the numbering.

Supposedly, these were changed in color, from time to time, for security purposes, and/or to fool spies.

Most of the Normandy Panthers, if not all, would have zimmerit on the hull and turrets sides.

Jovian128 Feb 2012 11:38 a.m. PST

picture

Shows his Panther with zimmerit on the entire tank, including the side skirts.

picture

Shows the Panther with Black numbers with a white outline.

This site has quite a few photos of Barkmann in his Panther with and without zimmerit.

link

Das Reich usually had the Das Reich rune on the rear of the tank hull on a fender or on the side of the hull near the stowage of the equipment. It depended on the vehicle and the commander. I've seen both red and black numbers with a white outline – but typically black in the west.

mkenny28 Feb 2012 1:06 p.m. PST

It is worth mentioning that the famous 'Barkmann's Corner' account is wrong in that the force engaged by Barkmann was a flanking Unit for the main US thrust comprising of a couple of light tanks and trucks. No Shermans and no held up US advance.

Etranger28 Feb 2012 7:34 p.m. PST

Jovian1. Nice picture, but different tank, or at least number!

Fred Cartwright29 Feb 2012 3:28 a.m. PST

It is worth mentioning that the famous 'Barkmann's Corner' account is wrong in that the force engaged by Barkmann was a flanking Unit for the main US thrust comprising of a couple of light tanks and trucks. No Shermans and no held up US advance.

Interesting. What's the source for this?

mkenny01 Mar 2012 10:44 a.m. PST

For more details see:


link

Martin Rapier02 Mar 2012 4:11 a.m. PST

Very interesting, thanks.

Maybe just as every German tank was a Tiger, perhaps every Allied tank/AFV was a Sherman!

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