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Personal logo Cardinal Hawkwood Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 2:57 p.m. PST

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sort of pinched from the Fireforge website but valid I think..
I go with the Childrens' Crusade
link
&
The Crusade of Nicopolis (1396) organized by Sigismund of Luxemburg, king of Hungary, culminated in the Battle of Nicopolis
then to further
to help kick off this one
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

Garand21 Feb 2012 3:06 p.m. PST

Personally I'm more interested in the 1st and Northern Crusades.

Damon.

Personal logo Inari7 Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 3:06 p.m. PST

The Third Crusade Third Crusade (11891192)

I like the Battle of Arsuf where Richard I of England defeated Saladin. A Very important battle afterwards Richard was able to secure Jerusalem from Jaffa the closest port.


Two great men from history battling for supremacy, whats not to like.

religon Inactive Member21 Feb 2012 3:15 p.m. PST

I have interest in the Mamluks. This makes the 9th Crusade, the threat of a French-Mongol alliance, the related Battle of Ain Jalut (1260) and the fall of Acre (1291) of great interest to me.

I have only ran one game in this period, a crushing defeat for the Mamluks.

Personal logo rampantlion Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 3:17 p.m. PST

Either the first or third. The first is fascinating with all of the factions that were somewhat working together, but also independent forces that didn't necessarily trust or like each other that much. Guess the same could be said for the third crusade seeing the troubles that Richard got himself into on his attempt to return home.

Allen

bluewillow21 Feb 2012 3:21 p.m. PST

first and third for me also

First for all of the bickering and the third for the same reason

cheers
matt

Personal logo Mrs Pumblechook Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 3:28 p.m. PST

Albigenisian Crusades. What did the Cathars ever do to anyone.

Personal logo Ambush Alley Games Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 3:28 p.m. PST

First and Third here, too.

Frothers Did It And Ran Away21 Feb 2012 3:29 p.m. PST

First because it was such an astonishing achievement for the time; Northern/Baltic for unusual cool factor and the second of Louis IX's crusades (8th?) for bizarre factor liberate Jerusalem by putting your army at the service of the King of Sicily (who happens to be your younger brother) to chastise his Tunisian vassal (1500 miles from Jerusalem) and then poo yourself to death two days after arrival. Result!

Personal logo SgtPerry Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 3:30 p.m. PST

Albigensian Crusade, locations are only 500 miles from here. Some no longer exist others are still here like the city of Carcassonne ( visited it 20 years ago).

Olivier

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 3:33 p.m. PST

1st and 3rd.

redbanner4145 Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 3:39 p.m. PST

4th

MajorB Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 3:41 p.m. PST

4th Crusade. It never even got as far as the Holy Land!

mad monkey 1 Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 4:04 p.m. PST

1st.

Personal logo John the Greater Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 4:37 p.m. PST

Gotta go with the Ninth Crusade. Mongols – what's not to like?

SonofThor21 Feb 2012 4:55 p.m. PST

Baltic Crusades, gotta love the Teutonic Knights!

Personal logo Chris Rance Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 5:00 p.m. PST

Northern Crusades for me too – rereading Eric Christiansen's book at the moment.

Personal logo FingerandToeGlenn Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 5:20 p.m. PST

Fourth. Gotta love the capitalistic Venetians and an army that somehow missed Egypt and ended up in Constantinople.

Pedrobear Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 6:02 p.m. PST

The First.

Also of interest to me is the period around 1261, with the restored Byzantine Empire and Mongols in the picture – perfect setting for a campaign.

CapnJack21 Feb 2012 6:05 p.m. PST

First Crusade

21eRegt21 Feb 2012 6:08 p.m. PST

3rd Crusade. Great leaders, great action, great history.

Personal logo Waco Joe Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member21 Feb 2012 7:19 p.m. PST

Albigenisian followed by the Reconquista.

Mako1121 Feb 2012 8:22 p.m. PST

I like the 3rd, due to their improved helms and armor.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian21 Feb 2012 9:28 p.m. PST

The Third followed by the First.

Personal logo Texas Grognard Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 9:29 p.m. PST

Fourth Crusade as the Doge of Venice has got to be the greatset con man in history. Salut y'all!

Bruce the Texas Grognard

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER Inactive Member22 Feb 2012 1:02 a.m. PST

All of them actually! Love the Panoply of the Knights in their liveries.

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2012 6:11 a.m. PST

First Crusade. I like 11th/early 12 c. armor

StCrispin22 Feb 2012 7:36 a.m. PST

third. as for miniatures though, i would like later ones, since i am a hundred years war gamer and long for cheap plastic knights!

Paul Y22 Feb 2012 8:28 a.m. PST

First. Downhill all the way after that.

yorkie o122 Feb 2012 9:05 a.m. PST

The 3rd for me.

just visiting Inactive Member22 Feb 2012 12:12 p.m. PST

The First is my absolute fixation period: but I enjoy them all.

@Inari:

…Richard was able to secure Jerusalem from Jaffa the closest port.

Richard did not "secure Jerusalem" after the 3rd Crusade; Jerusalem remained in Muslim hands after 1187 until emperor Frederick II obtained it in 1229 for a scant fifteen years by treaty….

Orlock22 Feb 2012 3:16 p.m. PST

First Crusade

Perris070722 Feb 2012 9:51 p.m. PST

First. Love the factions involved and the look of the period.

Willtij Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2012 11:53 p.m. PST

First and third for me as well.

Oh Bugger Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2012 12:55 a.m. PST

The First for me and let me take this opportunity to give Runciman's history a plug.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2012 5:29 a.m. PST

Fourth Crusade – oh those devious Venitians !

Inkpaduta Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2012 12:05 p.m. PST

Although I am sure you are talking about the Holy Land I would ahve to go with the Baltic Crusades. I think this is a rich area for wargamers that has, overall, gone unnoticed.

ricepot Inactive Member23 Feb 2012 11:04 p.m. PST

3rd with the Surcoats.

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