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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2012 2:39 p.m. PST

Viewing these old photos of japanese captured airplanes at WW2 took my atention two of them named "Ki-57 Topsy" which didn't show the tradition "sun" on his fuselage, but a black cross quite similar to that of the german planes.
Maybe this was a "medical" air plane?. Don't know if the japaneses used the "Red Cross" to their vehicles and planes.
Or maybe it was a japanese plane used by germans?
Are there any evidence of Japanese planes used by the Luftwaffe?

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Thanks in advance for your guidance.

Amicalement
Armand

MajorB16 Feb 2012 2:45 p.m. PST

Doesn't look like a German cross.

Dave Schmid16 Feb 2012 3:05 p.m. PST

I may be wrong but I believe that the Japanese painted green crosses on their aircraft after they surrendered. The Ki-57 was a transport and was the only type of aircraft (transports) allowed to fly.

jpattern216 Feb 2012 3:06 p.m. PST

It's a red or green cross in a white circle. You can make out the circle best in the first photo of Topsy, the third photo on that page. You can also make out a cross on the underside of the wing.

Looking at the second photo of Topsy, about halfway down the page, you can still see the white circle on the fuselage, but it blends into the background color more. You can also see that the crosses on the topsides of the wings do not appear to have the white circles.

Probably used as either a post-surrender transport or medical hack.

Cold Steel16 Feb 2012 3:10 p.m. PST

They are surrender markings. MacArthur ordered the red hinomaru replaced with a green cross.

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jpattern216 Feb 2012 3:12 p.m. PST

In the second photo, those look like Japanese soldiers on the left (maybe with some US soldiers mixed in) with a US pilot or officer walking behind the tail of the plane. Lends credence to Dave's interpretation that this is a post-surrender transport.

Etranger16 Feb 2012 5:47 p.m. PST

Interesting photos. The colour shot of the captured Zero with SEAC markings might have been taken in Australia, judging by the background.

Kaoschallenged16 Feb 2012 10:10 p.m. PST

Similar I mentioned in my German Maritime Operations thread the exact opposite. 2 German Ar-196s being used in Japanese Markings in the far East.
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Here are a few more examples,

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Robert

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Feb 2012 9:49 a.m. PST

Many thanks for your guidance boys!!

Amicalement
Armand

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