"35th Regt. Drummer's Coats Colors in AWI" Topic
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 Der Alte Fritz  | 10 Feb 2012 9:38 p.m. PST |
The British 35th Regiment of Foot has orange facings. So I assume that the musicians had orange coats, red cuffs/lapels/collars, and … …red shoulder wings with white lace? Is this correct? I need the information for a unit that I am painting for the AWI period. |
| number4 | 10 Feb 2012 9:54 p.m. PST |
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| Early morning writer | 11 Feb 2012 12:33 a.m. PST |
number4 that site is number 1 – very simple yet very helpful, duly bookmarked. Thanks! |
| 79thPA | 11 Feb 2012 6:55 a.m. PST |
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| epturner | 11 Feb 2012 7:19 a.m. PST |
That's what I have, but maybe SuperMax or Historygamer can confirm. Eric |
| Supercilius Maximus | 11 Feb 2012 2:00 p.m. PST |
This site claims to cover the F&IW and AWI periods, but I'm not sure what his sources are:- fifedrum.org/crfd/BD_1R.htm fifedrum.org/crfd/BD_1R.htm I've not seen any firm evidence as to what the 35th's drummers wore (Strachan's book on British uniforms of this period has nothing on the matter, but I believe the CoMH did a plate on the 35th around the time of Bunker Hill). So FWIW, "orange" coats with red facings seem as good a bet as any, IMO. However, it is worth noting that inspection reports and other documents describe these "orange" facings as "yellow" "tawny" and even "brown" at varying times in this period, so the colour may have varied from year to year and/or could have faded or otherwise altered during use. The colour on the two "fifedrum" sites looks too bright to have been an 18th Century colour. Orange was a notoriously difficult colour to produce and maintain in clothing and flags, which is why the Dutch replaced it with red early in the 18th Century. Wargamers often ask similar questions about those tegiments with "purple" facings, such as the 59th. It is usually more of a plum colour than the "edging on Roman toga" type of rich purple, but again, it seems likely that their drummers had reversed colours rather than white coats faced red. |
| historygamer | 15 Feb 2012 9:43 p.m. PST |
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| epturner | 16 Feb 2012 5:32 a.m. PST |
Historygamer;
That was a lovely link. But I noticed in the Photo section at Wyoming, there was a certain lack of… the King's Sausages. How is Capt. Van Vliet's company these days? 
Eric |
| Der Alte Fritz | 16 Feb 2012 7:51 a.m. PST |
Well, I have to say that the plain white chevrons look better than the red chevrons that I painted on my figure. The red does not stand out against a backdrop of orange. I guess that I will have to repaint my drummer of the 35th. |
| historygamer | 16 Feb 2012 10:55 a.m. PST |
I would just paint a white stripe over the red, leaving an outline of red. There were no hard and fast rules on musicians' lace, it was up to the colonel, and that would stand out better than either color by itself. In regards to the 35th, not sure if I'll see them this weekend or not. May not see anyone on Sunday if it rains, including me. |
| epturner | 16 Feb 2012 11:34 a.m. PST |
Our Regimental Meeting is Saturday. We're indoors. Eric |
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paints brigs for the British fleet.