| tnjrp | 09 Feb 2012 11:11 p.m. PST |
I suppose it was only a matter of time…
link Time to start working on those Moon boards, peeps! |
| doug redshirt | 10 Feb 2012 12:48 a.m. PST |
What I am happy about is that I see they are reviving "Cosmos". One of the truly great TV series ever. |
| Insomniac | 10 Feb 2012 3:11 a.m. PST |
Lets hope the merchandising runs to nicely scaled space-ships and vehicles :). |
| paulkit | 10 Feb 2012 4:16 a.m. PST |
Airfix will still have all of the eagle transporter moulds so lets hope they reissue….. |
| John Treadaway | 10 Feb 2012 4:44 a.m. PST |
Airfix will still have all of the eagle transporter moulds so lets hope they reissue….. C'mon you know they'll have to change that classic design to 'update' it*. Idiots… John T * Always assuming it ever gets made. What happened to the new UFO Film(s) :-( |
| Alex Reed | 10 Feb 2012 6:08 a.m. PST |
I got to see a talk by Neil deGrasse Tyson. He will be taking the place of Carl Sagan for the new Cosmos. But this looks to be good. I've only ever see YouTube videos of the Gerry Anderson stuff. Of course, something that I wonder is how they are going to explain the moon being blasted out of orbit, and if they will go into the "devastation on Earth that would be the result of the Moon leaving orbit. Also… I wonder how they are going to depict that. If the moon was really "blasted out of orbit" it would take it months to years to finally break free (expanding its orbit until it finally got caught be the Sun's gravity). Unless it gets enough of a boost to break free of the Sun's gravity, in which case, I wonder how the people on the Moon either withstood the acceleration or avoided being flung from the surface. Or maybe they are going to have it do a slingshot around the Earth and then Slingshot around the Sun. That would still take it a year or more to do, and you'd wonder why the Earth wasn't able to rescue anyone in the time-being. UNLESS… The Earth IS devastated and the people on the Moon are told "Sorry, we have problems here on Earth that require all of our spaceships. You'll have to fend for yourself." I just hope that they don't do the "Alien of the week" on a new series. You'd wonder where all of those aliens can from considering that they were still inside the solar system for a lot of that time (and then once outside of it, where were the stars that these planets were around?). |
| Dynaman8789 | 10 Feb 2012 6:27 a.m. PST |
> Of course, something that I wonder is how they are going to explain the moon being blasted out of orbit, and if they will go into the "devastation on Earth That is the least of their worries, the original show had the moon running across a new planet each episode, that nuclear explosion that ripped it away from Earth must have been a real doozy. There were also references to the Earth being devestated in the original show as well. > The Earth IS devastated and the people on the Moon are told "Sorry, we have problems here on Earth that require all of our spaceships If they follow the original plot, the ships on the moon did not have enough fuel to get back to Earth (of course in a later episode they are noted as being between two galaxies, and a ship would require a few months to get to one or the other…) > You'd wonder where all of those aliens can from considering that they were still inside the solar system for a lot of that time Just noticed this, they were outside the solar system soon after the blast. |
| elsyrsyn | 10 Feb 2012 6:27 a.m. PST |
Sad, really. Way back when, it seemed totally reasonable that we would have a functional moon base by 1999. Now, bouncing it a century forward makes it almost plausible. Doug
(who should be able to take a lunar vacaton by now) |
| CmdrKiley | 10 Feb 2012 8:20 a.m. PST |
Probably more feasible that the Moon gets engulfed in a sort of wormhole rather than being being propelled at greater than light speeds by a nuclear explosion. The wormhole could be part of an experiment gone wrong. Wasn't that sort of the background story to Cowboy Beebop? A sort of stargate built in orbit around the moon backfires and cracks the moon and devastates earth. |
| commanderroj | 10 Feb 2012 8:58 a.m. PST |
Probably more feasible that the Moon gets engulfed in a sort of wormhole rather than being being propelled at greater than light speeds by a nuclear explosion. The wormhole could be part of an experiment gone wrong.Wasn't that sort of the background story to Cowboy Beebop? A sort of stargate built in orbit around the moon backfires and cracks the moon and devastates earth. Somthing along the lines i was going to suggest CmdrKiley. Theres another highly secret installation on the moon doing experimental work with dark matter. It all goes pear shaped. An alpha crew goes to the rescue. They are able to save both the earth and moon (despite government & military intransigence & incompetence)but they are unable to stop the moon being sucked into a wormhole [in fact it might be that in order to save the earth from substantial devastation they have to get sucked into the wormhole-employ techno babble as desired as to why this should be-but creates a dilemma with different crew from various nations more or less interested in avoiding a catastrophe for certain nations back home]in the process of saving the earth)Could even produce some Voyager like inter crew conflict with some crew rescued from the secret research facility. |
| Rassilon | 10 Feb 2012 9:19 a.m. PST |
Very cool… there's been a group of people pushing for this to happen for a very long time now, I wonder if they are still involved somehow? Seth MacFarlane and Fox producing Cosmos though!? Wah!? Are we sure Stewie isn't behind this!? |
| Dynaman8789 | 10 Feb 2012 9:47 a.m. PST |
Stewie should host. For Space 2099, perhaps they could have the moon swap dimensions with another moon each episode, explains the planet of the week problem (it's always an Earth, not The Earth, but an Earth) |
| ming31 | 10 Feb 2012 9:59 a.m. PST |
Earth is selling our radioactive waste as fuel for alien ships . a large truck stop gas station on the moon where the aliens stop . MIB ( shado) keep the undesirable from land on earth and stealing fuel , women etc. Space 7-11 circle K |
| (Major Disaster) | 10 Feb 2012 10:54 a.m. PST |
I was going to post a link to a fan site devoted to bringing Space:1999 back to TV as Space:2099, but it's no longer up. The site had re-edited episodes of Space:1999 that brought the series up to current industry standards of special effects, and an adjusted plotline to explain how the Moon is flung into space, and if I remember it correctly, it is quite similar to what CmdrKiley posted above.
Whatever ITV comes up with I'm eager to see it. Cheers,
Spartan 117 |
| Broadsword | 10 Feb 2012 11:07 a.m. PST |
It was every week from the audience's perspective, but not from the characters. Here is a timeline that tries to reconcile this, as well as some previously unanswered continuity issues: link Even considering this, their universe was pretty crowded. Al | ravenfeastsmeadhall.blogspot.com |
Dances With Words  | 10 Feb 2012 5:59 p.m. PST |
The fan-based effort to bring back Space:1999 as 2099 DID have a 'worm-hole'/space warp opened up by the blast on the 'far-side' of the moon….which the moon then plunged through…a 'rift' in space…which remained open for some time after the moon left…(Alan Carter could have gone home, but CHOSE to follow the moon/his friends)…and the 'velocity' they'd picked up in being pushed? through the wormhole was contra-indicated for their eagles getting away from moon and back through 'warp' before it closed… Earth 'suddenly' losing the moon would have been devastating in any case…(as shown in other science shows)… the 'residual' energy caused by the initial explosion/strange elements formed in blast, COULD have kept the moon 'shifting' in and out of warps on an irregular, but somewhat 'predictable' manner…triggered by proximity to 'gravity wells'/similar energy signatures…. The Eagles were modified in the series to have 'gravity screens' that give them the ability to accellerate/decellerate to/from '18% light-speed' and a range OVER a BILLION miles…rather than just to/from Earth…thanks to Victor Bergman's inventions…(not really given time to test them otherwise)…but time-compression for the higher speeds would have resulted in more time passing 'off the moon' than on it…(as we all sorta figured anyway)… The Eagles were the DC-3's of their era…but when we saw the 'Swift' (which was accompanied by 3 others and Mother-Ship in 'Brian the Brain'), the 'imagined' SuperSwift, and Mk9 Hawks….one had to wonder WHY Alpha didn't have 'other' ships…(something I'd change!) And they were NOT 'aerodynamic'…but they had 'gravity/heat shields'…(apparently 'electronic'/electromagnetic) that allowed the ships to enter/leave atmospheres at great speeds… I also thought there would have been 'other' installations, (original moonbase from UFO, perhaps??) in 'secret' that could have added to tech/staff of Alpha…. The 'new' Enterprise, Galactica, Viper etc showed that ships as wells as shows can be 're-imagined'…(V, BSG, Trek and so on)…but the question is…should they? |
| haywire | 10 Feb 2012 8:07 p.m. PST |
So… I am rewatching it now. It is not really a "nuclear" explosion. Its an unknown form of "magnetic radiation" explosion fueled by the nuclear waste that starts after recieving "a signal" from a distant planet that they were monitoring and prepping a spaceship to journey out there. In the second episode they mention a wormhole near jupiter bringing them into an antimatter universe/planet. In another episode they run into a black hole where they meet something that is interested in meeting them. It kinda makes it sound like this was all planned by an advanced race with science beyond ours to detect. Because the shows are episodic*, it seemed more like a set of infinite moons wormholed to other systems. The show goes off the beaten path from there. * by episodic I mean, the base is fully repaired, no real loss of eagles, no real deaths, etc… at the beginning of every episode. Oh… an NO LESSONS LEARNED. |
| Ghostrunner | 10 Feb 2012 10:38 p.m. PST |
Another option to 'launch' the moon would be to destroy the Earth completely. That gets them out of orbit without pulverizing the moon, but certainly doesn't solve the problem of how we get to a new star system each week. Would also change the plot dynamic, as there would be no hope of returning to Earth, but it would make the survival of the moonbase personnel that much more critical. Then again, it might be too reminicent of BSG… |
| abdul666lw | 11 Feb 2012 1:31 p.m. PST |
'Space 1999' was a kind of spin-of of 'UFO' link , in that a poll among UFO fans showed they wish the moonbase to be the main location of any new season (I suspect its Amazon crew was influential). The model of the enlarged moonbase was built, but the project dropped and evolved to the totally different setting (and atmosphere) of Space 1999 link . While despite all it weaknesses I keep fond memories of UFO, lighthearted and at the same time treating difficult subjects and leading to unsatisfactory conclusions for major characters. And *so* typical of the late sixties!
YouTube link I could never catch to S 99: the play of the main cast is awful (specially for the 2 major actors, also involved in 'Mission Impossible', totally expressionless), the stories annoyingly preaching and pretentious. |
| tnjrp | 13 Feb 2012 10:18 p.m. PST |
Interview with producer Jace Hall:
link |
| Ghostrunner | 14 Feb 2012 9:17 a.m. PST |
by episodic I mean, the base is fully repaired, no real loss of eagles, no real deaths, etc… at the beginning of every episode. Oh… an NO LESSONS LEARNED. It suffered from the same problems as most series of the time: -Multiple writers working on multiple scripts in parallel. Since the shooting order was not pre-determined, no one would know in advance who died last week, or when Eagle 15 blew up. So the answer… no one dies. And Eagle 15 blows up EVERY week. -Special effects reuse. No brainer. Before CGI, doing specialized effect shots for each episode was prohibitively expensive. Still is, but a little more flexibility. This was the big reason Voyager was always back from the dead with a new coat of paint each week. -Short life spans (of the series, not the cast): Since most of these shows were living on borrowed time from the very beginning, starting out with a 30 episode story to tell was kind of pointless. One could argue if they had done this at the start, they might have made it to a 3rd or 4th season, but after Star Trek died (for a while) after the 3rd season, no one really expected a sci-fi show would stay on the air more than 20-30 episodes (unless it involves a time-travelling phone booth). |
