"Old Glory Landsknechts sizes" Topic

Hi folks, this is my first post on TMP.

I have just recently entered the wonderful world of historical gaming by buying a box of Perry's 1450-1500 European Mercenaries and a box of Perry's War of the Roses figures. I was wondering if the kind people here would help a newbie.

I've decided that I want to do a Maximilian Imperial army of the Holy Roman Empire at the conclusion of the 15th Century. After a little research, I learned that this was when the landsknechts were introduced. I planned on getting some Old Glory figures because of the price point and because I'd read nice things about them here.

Does anyone here know whether the minis are 28mm or 25mm? Whether they come with bases? And whether they come with their pikes?

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The plan I have is to use the Perry figures mostly to represent militia, and some as lingering pre-landsknecht mercenaries fighting alongside landsknechts, topped off with Perry's WOTR mounted Men-at-Arms when they are released. Does that make sense for an army from that period? Would it even be appropriate for the Italian Wars?

They don't come with pikes. They do have solid hands and you have to drill out a hole to insert your own pike.

Bases? Not sure what you mean.

I think they are closer to 28 than 25mm, and possibly should go ok with Perrys for size.

The purists among us would say the OG lansknechts are from a later historical period than your Perry figures. If you were looking to use OG figures to represent lansknecht figures, you should probably use their Swiss range.

See pictures from the Luzerner Schilling ( link ) to get an understanding of Swiss and lansknecht dress of the time.

Totally agree with Phillius about sizes and period.

Major difference between Perry and Old Glory are sculpting styles. Perry are long legged and "restful". Old Glory are active with sometimes exaggerated poses and features. They should fit together after painting. Not 100% sure about horses, stick with one company to be sure.

Here are some examples of OG figures from War of the Roses and Renaissance ranges. link

Also, prepare to drill a lot of holes for OG figures. Dremel drill is a must.

Thanks guys.

By bases I mean the flat plastic things that the miniatures stand on. Some are individual 20mmx20mm, or larger ones for a whole unit, etc.

If the flamboyant style landsknechts are from a later period, I will probably abide by your recommendation to use swiss instead. But the Perry Merc Pikemen should be suitable in that case then shouldn't they? I think it may be easier to just buy more Perry stuff. I don't much like the sound of having to drill so many miniatures.

And that Luzerner Schilling book is very helpful.

Yes your Perrys are suitable for the end of the fifteenth century.

OG figures do not come with the plastic bases like a lot of the plastic figures do now.

Well that makes it easy then, Perrys it is!

You won't be sorry going with Perry , their products are second to none both plastic and metal.

But the Perry Merc Pikemen should be suitable in that case then shouldn't they? I think it may be easier to just buy more Perry stuff.

As others said, the Perry figures are perfectly good for the late 15th century Holy Roman Empire.

If you need metal figures to bring more variety, Perries have lots of useful ones in their Wars of the Roses and European Armies ranges.

A word on the bases: the Perry plastic come with 2*4.5 and 4*4.5 cm bases, which are pretty uncommon gameswise.

I ordered a ton of 2*2 and larger bases – from Renedra, for their greater variety. For 3*6 cm (FOGR) you would need other suppliers. Make sure you figure out which bases you use before you start to build your army :-)

I've noticed the odd Perry bases, but I've just been cutting the extra half a cm off to make it nice.

I was going to cut them all into 20mm squares, but haveing checked the Renedra site just now it may be easier to buy 120 at the size I want than to stuff around with cutting.

Thanks folks.