"Baden Napoleonics" Topic

I'm thinking of buying some Connoisseur miniatures Baden figures (28mm). Here they are

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I want a Grenadier Guard battalion and some line infantry battalions (oh, and the Hussars). I can't find a mounted officer for these infantry units. Which would do as a substitute?

I'm most interested in 1809, if that makes a difference. I believe their battalions had six companies, like the French, at least at some point, with 5 companies for the Grenadier Guard.

I see that Connoisseur have fusiliers and grenadiers, but I don't know how that fits into the line battalion structure e.g. do they have a light company, in grenadier uniforms, a grenadier company, in grenadier uniforms, and then four fusilier companies?

I bought the Battalion packs which come with a mounted officer,

Tally Ho!

I used the Grenadier casting for both Lights and Grenadier. And then four fusilier companies. I believe I used the Spanish Mounted officer as he was in a Bicorne.

Solved my problem :-)

Not sure, but I think the Guards bn didn't go campaigning…

I have a lot of information about this army on my blog at:

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It's too bad the Pontoonier figures I used are almost unobtainable:

There is also a lot of good information about the troops of the Grand Duchy of Baden on WargamerRabbit's blog at:

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I'm still looking to add an artillery company and the Light Dragoons to my small Baden contingent!

Peter

This is awful! So much wonderful info on Baden might force me to return to 28mm Napoleonics. I've often thought of doing just such a Baden project, but didn't have time for the research. Now, my best and strongest argument against doing the project has been removed. What will become of me now?? Woe is me.

Really good info, thanks (I think).

Nick – Connoisseur's Baden battalion packs for line infantry have 36 figures – is that 34 foot, a horse and a mounted officer, or 35 foot and a horse and mounted officer counting as one? The latter would be one man over the top for me as I don't like squeezing figures in on a command base.

@Gonsalvo

I have seen your lovely blog. Thanks for your hard work.

Lots of questions for you!

Any idea how many guns they had in their batteries?

Who would you use for the Jaeger, given that Pontoonier are out of the picture?

Also, did the grenadier guard campaign (as questioned above)?

When did the Baden Hussars see combat?

For the Light Dragoons – are the Bavarian Cheveauleger suitable figures?

Show him your hussars Caubeen !! :-) I'll give you a 1% percent "publicity" discount next time! LOL

Fons
MMPS

Chortle,

2 packs 70 figs + 2 x mtd command. one of my units has 4 bases of 8 the other 3 of 8 and one of 6 and a mtd officer. The rest I am using to make a Bde commanders stand and casualty markers, good value I believe and nice figures to boot,

Tally Ho!

Fons, I've noted your Baden Hussars and thank you.

What campaign(s) did they serve in?

It's too bad the Pontoonier figures I used are almost unobtainable

"Almost", has something changed (from "Impossible") in the last year or so?

The Bavarian Chevau-Leger/Dragoon figures should work OK for Baden Light dragoons. I think the batteries had 6 guns, but don't have my sources with me at present. Their uniform was much like the Bavarian artillery.

Baden Line or Bavarian Light Infantry would probably be the best match for the Baden Jagers, only a single batta;ion of them.

I don't think the Guard Infantry left Baden, but I coulkd be wrong.

Again, have to check my source on combat history for the Hussars ad get back to you.

Peter

OK, in 1809 the Hussars were slow to organize and mount, and for the most part stayed at home, along with the Footguard battalion and the (very small) Guard du Corps squadron. All of these "stay at home" troops did see limited action against insurgents loyal to the Hapsburgs from the Tyrol/Voralberg regions, and certainly would have been even more involved in home defnese duties had Von Schill, etc., been successful in inflaming Germany as the Austrians had hoped.

In 1812 the Hussars were part of the Baden contingent accompanying the Grande Armee into Russia, where they were effectively destroyed; they were not reconstituted after that, instead a second regiment of Light Dragoons was raised. The 2nd infantry regiment served in the 1st Corps, and the 1st and 3rd in Victor's 9th Corps.

The Artillery consisted of 2 foot companies (? later three) and one horse company; one of the foot companies served in Spain. The Foot Batteries (1809)had six 6 lbers and two howitzers, the Horse battery had two six pounders and two howitzers.

I have a good friend who lives in Dresden; he has a friend who is a historian who lives in Karlsruhe, the capital of Baden. He made some inquiries for me of her; unfortunately she is the kind of historian who finds the details of militaria and military history beneath her dignity, and pretty much said words to the effect that if I, for whatever reason that she couldn't fathom, actually *wanted* to know, I should research it myself. Her right, of course, but although I can read German to a degree, I certainly can't claim to be truly fluent, and I don't happen to live in the capital of the former country with access to the state archives! Oh well, maybe a trip someday after I retire to research an Osprey (or similar) on the subject, LOL!

Peter

…she is the kind of historian who finds the details of militaria and military history beneath her dignity, and pretty much said words to the effect that if I, for whatever reason that she couldn't fathom,…

*NJH: Yep, the worst sort of historian, one with high praise for her/himself.

The Baden hussars were heavily involved in the rearguard action at the Berezina, they were practicaly wiped out in that action, and were held in high esteem for their high performance under grueling conditions in the battle. A poor comfort for the unlucky members of the regiment…

Fantastic. Thanks for all the information.

Connoisseur miniatures

I used the Bavarian Grenadier for Baden lights as he has a plume.

I used the Bavarian Cheveauleger as a Bavarian regiment was transfered to Baden.

I used Perry for the Hussars. Fonz did a heck of a job. Now to find my camera.