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The Pied Piper08 Feb 2012 8:01 a.m. PST

Would two battalions of the same regiment have the same colours (flags)? So each would have the Kings Colour and the Regimental Colour?

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Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP08 Feb 2012 8:05 a.m. PST

British regiments were almost all single battalion regiments. There were very few exceptions, if any.

The Pied Piper08 Feb 2012 8:25 a.m. PST

OK, that helps! Thanks.

French Wargame Holidays08 Feb 2012 2:22 p.m. PST

A lot of the regts recived a second batn between 1756 but 1758 these second batns were renumbered

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Come In Nighthawk26 Apr 2012 9:51 p.m. PST

On 2nd BNs. Ian Sumner, in British Colours & Standards 1747-1881 (2): Infantry (Osprey Elite 81), summarized the 1751 Clothing Warrant, which detailed (to a degree anyway) the regulations for unit colors (pgs. 5-6). Second BNs were to have a "pile wavy" (that is a gold "flame") descending diagonally from the upper hoist corner of the King's color, and from the canton (aimed at the center of the color) on the Battalion color… These illustrations are not perfect as some flag sources argue the white "borders" to the Red Cross of St. George on the sheet of the King's and the canton of the Battalion color are too narrow -- so let's not go there. Instead, simply note the placement of the "pile wavy" on the colors of the 2nd BN, 1st Regiment of Foot.

See @ 1stoffoot.org/images/gb-1ft1.gif

As noted, most of the "second battalions" ca. 1755-56 soon acquired their own existence. For example, a second battalion of the 11th Regiment of Foot was raised at Southhampton on/after 25 August 1756. However, on 21 April 1758 it was detached to form the 64th Regiment of Foot. Therefore, this "second battalion" issue for the British army quickly goes away. However, the 1st Regiment of Foot kept its second battalion throughout the SYW, and the battalion fought in North America, so it will mater in a few instances.

spontoon28 Apr 2012 8:01 a.m. PST

Also the 42nd.!

Come In Nighthawk29 Apr 2012 11:33 a.m. PST

And the 85th (Light Infantry, aka "Crauford's Volunteers")…

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