"Painting Indians" Topic

What would be the best Vallejo paint color to use for Indian's flesh?

American Indians or the sub continental variety? In either case is can vary pretty widely by region.

Some good, bright red for the bodywork, Black for the wheels and the go-faster stripe.

Or do you mean the food? In which case, Rogan Josh, Tikka Massala, or Tarka Massala (Like Tikka, but otter.)

Pat

American Indians that fought in the AWI

Howard Hues makes a Native American Flesh that is about the right color. For southwestern Indians I use Vallejo Saddle Brown, but it would need to be lightened with some white for eastern Indians. They weren't as sun-darkened as the plains and southwest.

I used Vellejo Oriental Flesh and washed with nut brown ink for my AWI Indians. I was pleased with the results.

I mainly use a recipe from Eric Roof at Conquest Miniatures. Start with GW or Vallejo Game Color Beastial Brown. Then use Bestial Brown and Bronzed Flesh 1 to 1. Then the same with a touch of elf flesh, 2 to 2 to 1. Finally you can add a touch of ivory for final highlights if you want. This is from memory and might be a bit off, but I'm close at least.

I used normal flesh colour but then applied a dark Chestnut ink wash to them. It came out very well.

Delta Ceramcoat Dark Flesh. Does the trick at .99 a bottle.

Followed by a chestnut ink wash.

Eric

Stone Mountain has a good " Amerindian" that I use

Razor78 specifically asked for Vallejo, but to add to the other Woodland Indian skin recipes; for my 18mm Indians for the FIW/AWI I base the naked parts in Americana Burnt Sienna, then use Howard Hues Oriental Flesh as the main coat, and finally highlight in a mix of Delta Fleshtone/H.H. Oriental Flesh.

Of course after painting the flesh I liberally decorate them with warpaint-Vallejo Vermillion, Delta Charcoal, some brand or other of white, and finally Delta Straw(for yellow ochre).

Eastern American Indians' skin color is not that much different than that of standard anglo-saxon settlers. Maybe a little more tanned from being outdoors, but just barely.

I do what epturner does, sans the ink wash. the Delta Ceramcoat dark or ruddy flesh is about right.

I do more or less what EPTurner said, except I paint a base colour of Delta Cinnamon and dry brush Dark Flesh over it.

LInk others here, I use a medium ("suntan") flesh tone, not the lightest one, and wash with a red-brown ("chestnut") paint or ink. I'm not married to any particular range of paints for this at the moment.

I use GW Dark Flesh with a wet brush over whote prime.
Then, I drybrush with Delta Ceramcote Medium Flesh.

Delta Ceramcote Dark Flesh with a coat of The Dip also works.

Eastern American Indians' skin color is not that much different than that of standard anglo-saxon settlers.

I thought that Magua's warband in LotM looked like the Dartmouth Lacrosse team.

I always ignore specific requets for Vallejo colors, since no one within 200 miles carries them, except during Convention season.

What, no Elephant jokes?

I also use Eric Roof's recipe for Native American Flesh.

There were some funny stories going around about the extras in LOTMs. IIRC, the local Indian tribes refused to support the film and they ended up hiring lots of undocumented works. :-)

It seems like Eric Roof's painting guide has gone away. Does anyone have it or is it as simple as A Twiningham's paraphrase?

Eric uses a combination of Vallejo Game Color Beasty Brown (BB) and Vallejo Model Color Medium Flesh (MedF).

These are almost like washes in consistency. Very thin coats. I found out the hard way not to use paint that is thinned normally -- 5 coats later -- it went into simple green to start over.

1st coat -- Beasty Brown
2nd coat -- 4 parts BB 1 part MedF
3rd coat -- 4 parts BB 2 parts MedF
4th coat -- 4 parts BB 3 parts MedF
5th coat -- 4 parts BB 4 parts MedF

Highlight with 4 parts BB 5 parts MedF

I usually mix this on the palette, get all my Native Americans together and do the skin assembly line.

I have been at Cold Wars and Had to go dig it out of the files when I got home.

Hmm..he changed his recipe then. The Elf Flesh may have been my own variation, but I definitely remember him using an ivory.

Thanks all I will give it a try. does beasty brown= bestial brown from GW? is Medium flesh= Dwarf flesh?

Beastie brown is the same as GW's Bestial. Vallejo does make a dwarven flesh equivalent i their game color line, but their medium flesh is very yellow. I'm not sure there is a GW equivalent.

I seem to remember seeing someplace equate Vallejo Medium Flesh with GW's Vermin Brown?