"Looking for a Good Biblical era set of Rules" Topic

Hi,
From many Years I'm looking for a good set of rules for the Late Bronze Age/Chariot era.
Something of specific, giving the flavour of the period.
I Know several Ruleset like Archon, Field of Glory, Impetus, I've read also Hail Cesar, but none of those have the real rules to use chariot.
All these rules rely on an Impact between chariots, instead of use them like shooting platforms, exchanging missiles with an ebb and flow maneuver.
A can't imagine a charioteer trusting his spear against an enemy charioteer while both are "charging".

Any Ideas?

A can't imagine a charioteer trusting his spear against an enemy charioteer while both are "charging".

Homer said they did. Well, maybe they were rolling really slowly, but they did toss missile weapons from the chariot. I was thinking of using Hail Caesar for a chariot (Mycenaean) game – thinking the maneuver aspect of the rules might be better than WAB. Best, Dean

War and Conquest.

Raglan

Classical Hack? Specifically Homeric Hack or Holy Hack: Hacking by the Book. It is an old school style wargame with figure removal but pretty easy to play. Plus, Homeric Hack is written for the era you seek!

Light chariots in FoG can shoot and evade. There is no requirement to charge in to close contact. They can also shoot to their rear so if things get hairy they can turn 180 and still shoot then move away.

Not perfect but a lot better than many other sets.

Biblical rules?

Well Exodus has the main rules, but they brought out a supplement called Leviticus and it is chock full of extra rules, so well worth getting that as well.

Until the final part of the Bronze Age, chariot archers dominated the battlefield.
After this time the chariot was relegated to a supporting role and infantries are dominating.

Javelins and spears were carried on chariots, but I don't believe they were used for couched lance "shock tactics".
Moreover, in my opinion, 'Homer' and Micenean warfare are probabily not contemporary.

Is War & Conquest in print? Do You have a link?
Thank You for Your prompt answer.
Stefano

Stefano

War and Conquest: link

Yahoo group: link

Raglan

Impetus does have chariot rules in either extra Impetus 1 or 2 whichever one has the Biblical lists.

There are the King David rules from Venexia.

LOL Plynkes.

Plynkes beat me to it, drat.

Eric

In War & Conquest, chariots are more dynamic than some other games, they may make 'glancing attacks' and move away.
Some chariot profiles will be better at this than others, to represent how we think they may have fought. So some rely more on shooting and keeping out of the way.

For better or worse, I really like chariot models and chariot warfare across several historical periods. We also plan some models

War & Conquest is now on sale in our webstore and with some stockists around the world. Our website carries more information.

kind regards
Rob
scarabminiatures.com

Plynkes?

Looking for that I found a Colonial set of Rules.
There is something more?

I'm exhamining all the answers, Thank You to Everyone.

Stefano

BTW, if you want simple, you can go with Neil Thomas' "Ancient and Medieval Wargaming". The book is a little hard to find right now but well worth it.

I really like Warhammer Ancient Battles, there's a really good supplement called Chariot Wars that's got plenty of Biblical and Bronze age armies.

Holy Hack is supposed to be really good but I haven't tried it, but another one that I've been looking at is Dadi & Piombo's King David. link

A Bilblical Era set of rules? Does that involve an option to use miracles and angels of death as well as the above-mentioned chariots?

In Impetus I like the novel way you have to get your chariots up to speed before engaging them. Makes for some subtle nuances in the game.

This may sound silly, but I always thought DBA gave a good feel for the period.

King David is a little too simple.

Just use Hail Caesar. Make their clash value low and their firing value higher, then players will fire rather than charge.

Simples (for those outside the UK, this will be lost on you).

Jaz
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I discovered WAB gives an excellent Chariot Game if you make the figures smaller, or the Table bigger – so that there is room for sweeping moves by Chariotry.

I would say the 'shock' effect of threatened impact on units of poorly trained, led and equipped infantry should not be overlooked, and that Egyptian Chariots can shoot very nicely to perform a missile platform role in WAB thank you.

I have not played it yet, but expect HC will have similar use for light chariots, if you give them enough room to perform that way. I also find the appalling cost of a 28mm white metal chariot to be a major factor in making such games silly – because people can't afford lots of them. When i moved to 20mm plastics for the period I was able to filed loads, and had loads more fun.

I agree with 6sided that the current stats in HC for light Chariots make them a bit too shock-y, and will also be tweaking my clash and sustained values for these.

Pat

Ciao Bass!

Hey, Testudo, what are You doing here?

That's not Your millenium!

Any of the various sets of Ancients rules will do a decent job for the era.