"Comparison in sizes" Topic

I thought I saw a link to a site showing the size difference between 6m-10mm-15mm-20mm

Anyone have a site showing something like this?

Thanks

20mm is 5mm larger than 15mm; 10mm larger than 10mm; 14mm larger than 6mm

15mm is 5mm larger than 10mm; 9mm larger than 6mm

10mm is 4mm larger than 6mm

It's not rocket surgery.

Maybe it's not….but I was asking if anyone had a visual image with vehicles showing the different sizes.

No need to get snippy

In Connard's case a long history of past behavior would indicate a compelling need to get snippy at every opportunity. May as well get used to it.

If people asked the question that they wanted answering rather than a random collection of words, the snippiness quotient would be lower.

And as we all know, there are differences between various manufacturers within a given nominal size. All 10mm figures, for instance, are not created equal.

"Rocket Surgery"?

Rocket surgery is a bit like brain science.

"Anyone have a site showing something like this?"

Seems like the gent did ask a question they wanted answered. It may not be the one you like. However, for the questioner I doubt that is of any importance.

Thanks,

John

Leahy, you do 'sanctimonious' like I do 'snippy'.

Have a think about that.

Thanks,

Jeff

This should be a link to buildings in each scale

paperterrain.com/size.html

If you had posted anything worth considering I would think about it.

Thanks,

John

Nurse, NURSE!

A double round of happy pills for the bickering ones.

Yes, 15mm is 1.5X 10mm and 20mm is twice, get a picture of what you want, blow it up 1.5X and 2X and stick them on top of one another – VIOLA!

Oh, and Connard is right there is teeny 10mm, diminutive 10mm, true 10mm, large 10mm, heroic 10mm and then you can have anatomically true or not.

I will not be asking the one with the wig if my rocket has a appendicitus

Poor old Acctingman69 he's probably been driven to the Guild by now,- have to agree with Tim the Snowman's comments on this.
Be nice to noobs, we were all noobs once.

jack

As Grizzly mentioned, there is considerable variation in actual figure size within the labels (sometimes laughingly referred to as 'scales') 6mm, 10mm, 15mm, and 20mm.

A real Panther is 6.87m long, so….

To me 6mm is 1/300th scale, although figure height varies from 5mm to 8mm or more and if really lucky you get bloater Adler heads. A '6mm' Panther should be around 6870/300 = 22.9mm long. A GHQ one (1/285th) will be bigger.

10mm is ??? 1/150th???. I don't know, and neither seemingly neither do manufactures as figures and vehicles vary wildy in height, breadth and chunkiness. A '10mm' Panther will be 6870/150 = 45.8mm long.

15mm is 1/100th, although some devils spawn are now doing '18mm'. There is also some variation in vehicles, although the older Skytrex/OG 1/106th scale vehicles are noticeably smaller than Peter Pig, QRF etc. A '15mm' Panther will be 6870/100 = 68.7mm long

20mm is 1/76th, although it often overlaps with 1/72nd. There is also considerable variation here. 1/76th scale vehicles are usually relatively consistent, 1/72nd scale is all over the place, with a definite tendency to the 'heroic' from some manufacturers. A 1/76th or '20mm' Panther will be 6870/76 = 90.3mm long, a 1/72nd scale one 95.4mm. That is quite a noticeable difference.

All label to actual scale comparisons are IMHO.

Thankyou Martin you have clarified the picture to a sort of muddy brown normally found only in the backswamps of the Amazon!

I do think that 1:300 are gernerally pretty similar for scale, and 1/285 likewise. Figures HaH!

I need some brain science

If I can be bothered I could take some photos of the same vehicle in 6mm, 15mm and 20mm side by side.

But I'm not sure I can be bothered.

I thought that explaining how big a Panther should be in each of the four 'scales' would be helpful though. Maybe not.

Here is another way.

PantherPa – 1/300th or '6mm'
PantherPantherPanth – 1/150th or '10mm'
PantherPantherPantherPantherP – 1/100th or '15mm'
PantherPantherPantherPantherPantherPant – 1/76th or '20mm'
PantherPantherPantherPantherPantherPanthe – 1/72nd or '20mm'

depends on your screen resolution of course.

There used to be comparison pics of the various scales/sizes on the BKC site but I can't locate them now. It was one of those things that was always in the beginners guides to wargaming books or articles IIRC. I've only got a couple of 10mm vehicles to compare with the 15mm which comprises the bulk of my collection so can't really help any more.

Since you're asking about vehicles, also keep in mind that the visual perception of size differences is a cubic relationship, not simply linear. In my experience, this is more noticable in vehicles (due to their bulky nature) than figures.

The volume difference of length X width X height is what you are seeing. When I was finally able to replace my old Matchbox 1/76 Stuarts (converted to M5's) with 1/87 scale ones, the size difference was huge compared to what I'd been expecting -- that's what cued me in that it was the volume difference between the two.

Grabbing the numbers of a Panther off the net:
L=6.87m, W=3.27m, H=2.99m

1/100 Scale (~15mm)
L=68.7mm, W=32.7mm, H=29.9mm
Volume=67,170.051 cubic mm

1/150 Scale (~10MM)
L=45.8mm, W=21.8mm, H=19.93mm
Volume=19,902.236 cubic mm

If you just compare the length, the difference between the two is roughly 687:458, but comparing volume difference it's about 672:199.

That's also why even a 1/72 Panther looks a lot larger than a 1/76.

Martin – is that normal 1/100th, diminuitive or Heroic?

Acctingman69,
Sorry your perfectly understandable question got such a snotty reply from some quarters, not the normal reaction one gets on here can only assume some people have been dissapointed in love, footie match or that their piles are playing up………..
My advice for what its worth is go for some 15 mm to begin with, just a few bits and bobs, as youll enjoy the modelling side of it and its a much used scale.
Then you can decide if that scale is right for what you want to do or not. If you change scale youll always have some nice 15's for skirmish level games.

L

There was a site like this acting man, that showed tanks, at least. I defintely recall it, but not anything to help me remember the site, sorry.

There used to be comparison pics of the various scales/sizes on the BKC site but I can't locate them now.

link

Thanks to all who helped, I really appreciate it….to the ones who felt like being snippy asses, well, simply….go get bent :)

Acctingman, since there are such large variations between what various companies consider to be 6mm, 10mm etc, it is probably easiest if you look around for what kind of minis you want, and then ask for pictures. Some of us do make a point of not being snippy asses and will gladly provide comparison pics.
As an example, these are my toys displayed at the CP Models site. These would all be considered 20mm figures.
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"Martin – is that normal 1/100th, diminuitive or Heroic?"

1/100th is a very precise measurement, '15mm' isn't.

The volume thing is interesting, I'd not thought of that before. It certainly does explain why a 1/72nd Panther is so utterly huge.

Your 1/100th may be, most arent.

The volume thing does explain why tiny differences make for a chunky looking model. And why mixing 1/285 and 1/300 in the same unit looks odd.

Yes volume is something that takes some thinking about, going from 6 to 10mm figures for the new ancients has caused me a lot of thinking. The height difference is only 50% or so but the 'mass' difference is enormous.
L