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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP03 Feb 2012 11:52 a.m. PST

Of possible interest.
"The answer is yes. Just because a lot of Austrian regiments were recruited in Bohemia, Moravia (where the battle of Austerlitz was fought) and Silesia.
For example, the infantry regiments Nb. 1, Nb 29, and the 7th Cuirassiers were recruited in Moravia, the infantry regiment No. 20 in Silesia.
Major General Jircik (there are also the spellings Jurczek, Jurczik), who commanded a brigade of the 4th column, was himself a Czech.
Certainly, Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia were part of the Austrian Empire, and Emperor Francis II was also the Czech Crown Prince. There was however no "representation" in Czech politics, but that does not detract from the fact that the Czechs were represented at Vienna, and were then Austrian. Propertied nobility of Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia was of German origin – and spoke German. The fact remains that there was a nobility "Czech". The Prince and Field Marshal-Lieutenant John of Liechtenstein fought on his own land (and those of Kaunitz!)
The Czechs (the vast majority of Moravian), even if they "disliked" Emperor Francis, they were at that time, loyal to him.
As for Napoleon, they were (almost) all impressed by his power and his legend.
A particularly tenacious legend even today in South Moravia, mainly around the battlefield.
Oht from M. Jakub Samek article.

Anybody wargame with Czech units and flags?
Wonder to know if after Austerlitz some Czech volunteer from the French Army and if the answer is yes, to which unit they belongs.

Thanks in advance for your guidance.

Amicalement
Armand

MajorB03 Feb 2012 12:01 p.m. PST

Anybody wargame with Czech units and flags?

As it says in the text you quote, they were part of the army of the Austro-Hungarian empire, there weren't any specifically "Czech" units.

1968billsfan03 Feb 2012 12:24 p.m. PST

The Austrians pretended that the Czechs didn't exist.
The Hungarians pretended that the Slovaks didn't exist.
The Slovaks pretended that the Ruthanians didn't exist.

GDrover03 Feb 2012 6:07 p.m. PST

I recently read that Czech units were treated as 'German' as opposed to 'Hungarian' with regard to uniform.

The flags would have been the same as other battle flags from within the Austrian Empire.

I also read that the units recruited in Bohemia had a disproportionate share of battle honors.

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