Help support TMP


"Later Spartan helmet?" Topic


10 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please don't call someone a Nazi unless they really are a Nazi.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Ancients Product Reviews Message Board

Back to the Ancients Discussion Message Board


Areas of Interest

Ancients

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Recent Link


Featured Ruleset


Featured Showcase Article

Eureka Amazon Project: Nude Phalangites

More figures for the 28mm Amazon army!


1,113 hits since 2 Feb 2012
©1994-2026 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Fireymonkeyboy02 Feb 2012 1:29 p.m. PST

Hi,

Just toying with some ideas. I have a pile of Xyston spartans in Pilos. How anachronistic would it be to use them as later, hellenic Spartans – giving them pikes instead of spears? It's not an era I know much about, but was curious.

FMB

elsyrsyn02 Feb 2012 2:04 p.m. PST

Far as I know, it would not be too anachronistic at all.

Doug

JJartist02 Feb 2012 2:36 p.m. PST

I don't think the pylos style went out of style.. at least we don't have much evidence of later Spartan gear.
JJ

TKindred02 Feb 2012 3:20 p.m. PST

What JJ says. And the Pylos pattern wasn't strictly a Spartan thing. It could be found all over Greece.

RelliK02 Feb 2012 4:06 p.m. PST

I wouldn't doubt parts of Italy (Taras) and North Africa as well…

FABET0102 Feb 2012 4:30 p.m. PST

And armor is exspensive. The old stuff would certainly be handed down or found stored in old armories.

ancientsgamer03 Feb 2012 1:58 p.m. PST

I have some earlier Spartans that I am going to convert to later by giving them pikes. The problem I run into is that most of the figures are posed in an overhead thrust position. Luckily they are Essex and should be 'bendy" enough.

The other direction to go is to make them even earlier and have them be armoured with spear. If you are using FoG, Armoured spear is very, very tough!

Fireymonkeyboy03 Feb 2012 3:11 p.m. PST

Thanks for the replies, gang. @ ancientsgamer, no this would be for Impetus. I can't decide whether to use them as persian / pell. war era, of give them pikes and put them up against successors.

FMB

HarryHotspurEsq03 Feb 2012 4:22 p.m. PST

If you rearm them with pikes, make sure you give them the smaller round pelta as a shield rather than the larger hoplon. Otherwise, they should work fine.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2012 12:15 a.m. PST

Cleomenes III, the reformer king of the later 3rd century BC, is noted for rearming the Spartan phalanx in the Macedonian style, i.e. with pikes and presumably smaller shields/peltai. So yes, this is an accurate depiction, but strictly speaking, not until the time of Cleomenes III (r. 236-222 BC), as far as I know the ancient sources to indicate.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.