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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jan 2012 8:55 p.m. PST

About the Mexican-American War.

"On March 9, nearly two months behind schedule, Scott launched the first amphibious invasion in American history. It was a rousing success. In less than 5 hours 10,000 men had landed without a single casualty. Scott and his men besieged Veracruz and maneuvered to invest it, while the navy blockaded and bombarded the city. Siege life was miserable for both the besiegers and the besieged. Mexican skirmishers kept the American sentries wary and trigger happy. Sand was everywhere and in everything. Happily living in the sand were sand fleas–all of them hungry and looking at the arrival of the Americans as an opportunity to gorge. Battling them took on almost the same importance as fighting the Mexicans–with some unusual results. Young Lieutenant Robert E. Lee and a colleague hit on the idea of covering themselves with pork grease to keep the pesky critters from feasting on them. This experiment in pest control had no impact on the sand fleas, but probably cost Lee most of his friends. Others dealt with the fleas by enclosing themselves completely in their canvas sleeping bags, usually resulting in the complete encasement of victim and a large number of fleas.

More ominously, cases of La Vomito began to occur in small numbers almost as soon as the forces landed, though not at epidemic strength. Scott knew that it was only a matter of time before it did and that it would cripple his army.

Inside Veracruz the citizenry was subjected to a demoralizing bombardment from the warships gathered in the harbor. Further lowering of civilian morale followed the American investiture of the city. Depressing the citizenry more, no relief appeared from Mexico City.

Mexican support from outside the beleaguered city was pitiful. Troops from the upland states of the Mexican republic refused to venture into the coastal regions for fear of the La Vomito, whose season was rapidly approaching.

As the bombardment continued Scott prepared to take the city by storm. He could not afford to be in the low country when the yellow fever season hit–around April 15th–and although he estimated US losses would be close to 2000 if such an assault was conducted, he recognized the eventuality of having to do the same rather than wait.

On March 25, a brief cease-fire was sought by the Mexicans. The foreign consuls inside the city asked that they be allowed to evacuate the civilians. Scott rejected the request. Dismayed the Mexicans realized that the constant bombardment would only continue. Chaos was already rife inside the city and the morale of the citizenry nonexistent. A late Norther struck that night and broke the back of what resistance remained. On the 27th, after a day of negotiations, the city and the fortress of Ulua surrendered to Scott.

On March 29 the Mexican garrison marched from the city, stacked their weapons in the rail yard and marched westward. By noon Scott was in possession of Veracruz.

Scott could not afford to dally in the city and began to advance along the National Highway toward Mexico City on April 2nd. At Cerro Gordo, a motley collection of Mexican troops, the so-called "Army of the East", attempted to halt the American advance. On April 18, Scott's forces won a crushing victory against the Mexicans.

Scott continued to advance along the highway higher into the mountains passing the city of Jalapa and the fortress of Perote. But now he could breathe a sigh of relief as he crossed the Sierra Madres range. He had passed the Yellow Fever Line and only one enemy remained.

Without enough men to hold the National Highway from his base at Puebla to Veracruz, Scott abandoned his line of communications entirely. "Scott is lost," said the Duke of Wellington in London, "He cannot capture [Mexico] city and he cannot fall back upon his base." Scott met Santa Anna's forces at Contreras on August 19th and at Churbusco on August 20th, defeating them on both occasions. On September 13, 1847 the American forces stormed the "Halls of Montezuma" and the city fell. The war was, for all intents and purposes, over."
From "The Mexican-American War" by David W. Tschanz

Anybody had wargame these interesting campaing, specially the landing and site of Veracruz?.

Amicalement
Armand

Lee Brilleaux Fezian31 Jan 2012 9:59 p.m. PST

Never start a TMP thread with "Wellington was wrong". It just leads to shouting and Dawghausing.

I'd add to this, "Patton – batBleeped text crazy or what?" and "George Washington – more than just a traitor with wooden dentures?"

Also – "Flames of War – like 40K but not as realistic?" That ones is worth a dozen of us in the cells.

David Manley01 Feb 2012 12:03 a.m. PST

As SWMBO said "of course he was wrong, he was a man"

CooperSteveOnTheLaptop01 Feb 2012 2:58 a.m. PST

I've seen the bed Wellington died on, & the bed Napoleon died on. Never seen the ones Scott or Santa Anna died on. Are they even around anymore?

Swampster01 Feb 2012 4:14 a.m. PST

At least Wellington had the grace to admit he had misjudged – he later said "His campaign was unsurpassed in military annals."

Royal Marine01 Feb 2012 7:54 a.m. PST

I do know that the USMC sing about the Halls of Montezuma. I think Robert Sharpe was there too providing SITREPs for Wellington and no doubt bagging a few Froggies, er sorry I meant Mexicans.

Connard Sage01 Feb 2012 8:51 a.m. PST

Never start a TMP thread with "Wellington was wrong". It just leads to shouting and Dawghausing.

I'd add to this, "Patton – Bleeped text crazy or what?" and "George Washington – more than just a traitor with wooden dentures?"

Also – "Flames of War – like 40K but not as realistic?" That ones is worth a dozen of us in the cells.

You forgot the perennial favourite. "Napoleon – military genius or stunty loser?"

CooperSteveOnTheLaptop01 Feb 2012 9:28 a.m. PST

Robert Sharpe? Do you mean Richard?

doug redshirt01 Feb 2012 10:46 a.m. PST

Can we blame the legacy of the Duke being the cause of the British performance in the Crimea?

DJCoaltrain01 Feb 2012 9:13 p.m. PST

Sure. Why not?

Seamus01 Feb 2012 10:36 p.m. PST

"Lord Raglan was a brilliant tactician. He was a man of sharp mind and a warriors heart, and he didn't afraid of anything!"

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