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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2012 12:56 p.m. PST

Are there any book or documents about german soldiers of any rank that can managed to scape walking from Stalingrad and arrived safe to the German lines?.
It seems that some had tried as you could read here.

link

But without success.

Only Sven Hassel and his gruop could made that epic path? (smile).

Now seriously, any book or memory about that?

Thanks in advance for your guidance.

Amicalement
Armand

tuscaloosa27 Jan 2012 4:45 p.m. PST

Yes, various groups up to 40 or 60 in size, German planes dropped supplies to them when they could.

Probably a good skirmish scenario there.

Beowulf Fezian27 Jan 2012 5:01 p.m. PST

Not many escaped.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP28 Jan 2012 10:48 p.m. PST

The Russians said that no one could scape.

Amicalement
Armand

Kaoschallenged29 Jan 2012 12:37 a.m. PST

Someone always seems to escape no matter what. You can't be everywhere all the time.And with such a large amount of individuals and area to cover there are some that are bound to get away. But to be able to survive after the encirclement, exhaustion,weakness,malnutrition, Soviet forces and the ground needed to cover to get to the German lines IMO it would just be too much. And Armand it's ESCAPE not SCAPE :). I did find this though. Whether there is any truth in it I really don't know.

"Paul Carrell's 'Stalingrad' he states the following (pg 209)…

Many set out: staff officers with entire companies, like those from the headquarters of XI Korps & the 71st Infantry Division. Lts & Sgts set out with platoons under cover of night. Corporals & privates stalked out of the rubble in twos & threes or even alone. isolated groups were spotted in the steppe by pilots as late as mid-February. Then they lost track of them. Only one man, an NCO with a Flak Battery, Uffz Nieweg, is reported to have got through. But 48 hours after reaching safety he was killed by a stray mortar round at a dressing station of the 11th Panzer Division."
link

Robert

tuscaloosa29 Jan 2012 11:28 a.m. PST

A little precision in definition is called for here. Are you talking about escape from the Stalingrad pocket once the pocket had first been cut off, i.e. 23 November on? Or are you talking about escape from the Stalingrad pocket once it surrendered at the beginning of February?

(Armand, the word is "escape".)

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2012 12:44 p.m. PST

Aphologies in advance for my word mistake.

Robert: I had to search for the book I had read that most interesting was to know the amount of german soldiers that didn't surrender in Stalingrad. By memory I remember that at the end of March 1943 and beginning of April, the Russians soldiers still found german pockets in and near the ruined city that refused to surrender.

Tuscaloosa, I'm talking about escape (ESCAPE) from Stalingrad pocket one the pocket had been cutt off and failed the atemp to release the VI° Army. From December to February more or less.

Thanks for your help with my idiom mistakes.

Amicalement
Armand

donlowry29 Jan 2012 2:02 p.m. PST

Did they use scape boards?

tuscaloosa29 Jan 2012 9:02 p.m. PST

No, but they had lots of scape goats.

Armand, I was just giving you a small tip, your English is very good, actually. I thank G every day I don't have to read mini rules or boardgame rules in a foreign language, we have enough rules arguments even among native speakers.

The mini skirmish potential I see is 10-12 German infantry on one side of the board, with only small arms (i.e., they've already thrown away crew served weapons), with a random assortment of Soviet front and rear units passing by on a road. The Germans have to exit the far side.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2012 9:48 p.m. PST

Tuscaloosa, everything is cool.
I think that somebody could escape.
Not only one man.
But I never found records about that.
Only…Sven Hassel books (smile).

Amicalement
Armand

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP10 May 2021 4:25 p.m. PST

Those didn't made it…


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Armand

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