"Markings for Crocodiles North-West Europe" Topic

My research to date shows that the Crocodiles of the 141st RAC, 31st Tank Brigade were pretty minimal with only the WD number evident.

1. Any examples while part of the 31st with more "colorful" markings?

2. Were markings added when the 141st was incorporated into the 79th Division? I would think at least the Divisional badge added?

Not specific to Crocodiles but have seen some Commonwealth units were disbanded or reassigned 44-45. Especially after Normandy was any effort made to change markings when such a change took place? Not only Divisional badges but would seem some moves would change senority and have a ripple effect in the unit.

Should set off some competitive googling :-)

It does look (2nd link) as if the 79th division crocodiles had the divisional marking.

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I really wouldn't use a gate guard or tank in a museum as a reference for markings used in WWII.

"Especially after Normandy was any effort made to change markings when such a change took place?"

Well yes, same as when battalions or brigades were assigned to different formations. The influence of seniority in such instances is somewhat mysterious, as with many things to do with the British Army.

You can just make out the AoS sign on the back of the trailer here, which would suggest that AoS signs and formation signs were carried:

I've also found one (again 141 RAC) with a squadron sign clearly visible on the turret rear ('B' Sqn square with troop number inside), but can't link to it.

However, as always, it's often extremely difficult to tell, as the photos are in black and white, meaning that it's often extremely dificult to spot different colours, added to the fact that they're often plastered in a layer of crud and/or camouflage/stowage/track-links.

As Derek says, I would be extremely wary of using museum pieces or gate guardians as a guide, as even Bovington has some howlers in that regard.

Re seniority – 141st RAC remained the junior regiment in 31st Tank Brigade throughout the war, so the only change was the change in formation sign. 7th RTR moved from senior to second regiment, so also changed its AoS sign.

Again many thanks to all. Never even considered the trailer for markings!