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cavcrazy26 Jan 2012 5:16 p.m. PST

So I was going through some boxes and found two small boxes from a company called "Bugle And Guidon", The figures are under the heading of the "Custer Line". The figures are a tin alloy and luckily I have Custer, Cooke, some mounted troopers and dismounted troopers, as well as some dead horses, and in the second box I have some mounted, dismounted and dead Indians. The figures are roughly 30mm and are marked on the bottom B&G 1969.
Has anybody ever heard of or seen these figures?
Does anybody have any of these figures?

HesseDarmstadt6226 Jan 2012 5:31 p.m. PST

I used to have a few myself--I'm pretty sure they were part of the old "Der Kriegspieler" company; at least they were marketed by "Der K" back in the 1970s. I remember buying them at the Tin Soldier in Dayton (back when it was on Salem Avenue). I haven't seen them in decades. Some of the wargamers active in southwestern Ohio back in the '70's may be able to shed more light on the line.

regards,
HesseDarmstadt62

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2012 5:48 p.m. PST

It is my recollection as well that they were marketed by DK, however I don't know if DK actually cast them.

William Warner26 Jan 2012 5:54 p.m. PST

I bought a few of these in the early '70s to use in a small diorama. They're very nice figures and quite accurate as to uniforms, weapons and other details. I still have them.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2012 6:10 p.m. PST

I have about 20 that I never did anything with.
Contact me
john_the_OFM at msn dot com if you want them.

cavcrazy26 Jan 2012 6:11 p.m. PST

email sent

FusilierDan26 Jan 2012 7:13 p.m. PST

I think they were listed in Featherstones' Solo Wargames.

nevinsrip26 Jan 2012 9:06 p.m. PST

B&G made ACW and Custer type figures in both 30 mm and 54 mm. In fact, the 54 mm line was taken over by Monarch Miniature out of Queens, NY and are still in production today. I do not believe that the owner has the 30 mm molds, but he does have all the Custer series and he still appears at various East Coast toy soldier shows.
I know that he does the Hackensack show and I just saw him in Novemeber at the LIMMS show.
The Custer personalities are some of the finest figures around. I have quite a few. If you want to know more Cavcrazy, then drop me a pm.

Early morning writer26 Jan 2012 11:22 p.m. PST

nevinsrip, at moment, cavcrazy does not appear to be a supporting member an so cannot PM you. Just an observation.

Ceterman27 Jan 2012 10:46 a.m. PST

Nevinsrip,
How can I get in touch with the man who has the 54mm stuff? I got some of them in 1973 & would like some more. I've painted them & given them as Christmas presents to a good friend of mine that is a Custer fanatic over the past 10 or so years. I'd love to get some of the other figs in the line for him.
Thanks!

nevinsrip27 Jan 2012 3:11 p.m. PST

Ceterman PM me at nevinsrip@aol.com and I'll send you the info.

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2012 5:08 p.m. PST

Stan Glanzer and I started Bugle and Guidon. Sometime around 1974 or so, I sold my half interest to Stan and he joined forces with Duke Seifried. Der Kriegspielers continued to produce them for a while.

All of the Custer related figures, both in 30mm and 54mm, were introduced when Stan and I had the business.

August Benkert of Monarch added some figures to the 54mm line after he acquired it. I did not realize those were still available. I had heard at one time that the 30mm molds were in Cincinnati.

I have one of each of the 54s that I painted. The 30s we sold both individually and in some diorama sets. Peter Blum of the Soldier Shop in NYC wanted that packaging done. He was not into wargame sales, but almost exclusively 54mm and larger collector figures. He correctly thought he could sell little diorama sets of the 30s. I still have one of each of those sets painted.

I used to use the 30s for wargaming. That was my intended purpose when we produced them. I finally sold all of my painted and unpainted single 30mm figures to a "convention friend" at Little Wars a few years ago.

I switched to primarily Foundry. I appreciate the kind words on the accuracy of the figures, but there are a few things that should have been done differently. For June 25, 1876, Foundry figures are quite good.

It is nice to read that there is still some interest in those figures. Stan would have appreciated it to. Some of you probably know he died in his early thirties from a heart attack. We had been friends since the third grade.
He sculpted the Confederals, Confederettes, Napoleonettes, the AWI (I forget the title that was used) and other lines for Duke Seifried when they were in business together.

Tom

cavcrazy27 Jan 2012 6:20 p.m. PST

Tom,
I would like to say that I think your figures are beautiful castings, and I can't wait to paint the few castings I have.
When they are done I will post them on my blog so that they can be seen.
I game the Plains Indians wars as well and I am working on my Foundry 7th cav.
If you want to see some of my collection I posted on the 19th century gallery under the heading of "Plains Indians"

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2012 12:15 p.m. PST

Thanks for the compliment cavcrazy.

I don't know how I missed your posting under "Plains Indians" but I did. I left some comments there. Nice work. I am deep into Napoleonics now, but soon I will get back to work on my 25mm Sioux Wars.

I will check bac on your blog.

Tom

The Dozing Dragon09 Feb 2012 5:23 p.m. PST

Hi Tom,

I picked up a bunch of DK 54mm figs a few years back that had Bugle and Guidon stamped on the bottom – see pics on the Lost Minis WIKI

link

Lovely sculpts – any idea who did the actual sculpting? It would be great to add the extra details to the WIKI – plus any corrections if you have them!

Dave

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