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Cheriton26 Jan 2012 7:39 a.m. PST

So Caesar said:

"Weeni, weedi, weechi"?

guinness

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2012 8:39 a.m. PST

Score for Miss Johnson, who had nothing pretentious about her (and was quite attractive— not unlike a young Maggie Smith— which didn't hurt maintaining interest).

The Romans were quite efficient in their use of the alphabet. One notes that, unlike today, letters generally had one phonetic sound associated with them; hence they had no need to duplicate C, which was always hard, with K or create constructions in spelling for sounds perfectly reflected in a single letter. Thus, it is quite easy to see that since "V" stood for "u" it is far more logical for it to have an association in consonantal usage with "w," which it more closely resembles in sound, than our modern voiced fricative "V" (the voiced partner of "F"), which is Germanic in origin, not Latin.

(I may not be an expert in Latin, but I did study the origin of the English language in college, and know my fricatives and stops and from whence they arose.)

For those who are curious, the correct pronunciation of Parzival, is, as I understand it "PAR-tsi-fal." But of course, it is Old High German, not Latin or English.

And I checked the mirror— no tattoo.

Waynee, weedee, weekee.

(Not to be confused with "waynee, weedee, wookee," which translates as, "I came, I saw, I tore their arms out of their sockets.")

just visiting26 Jan 2012 9:07 a.m. PST

As Sir Winston was fond of saying, "Foreign languages were made to be pronounced in English".

Vel-i-tess. Or, if you prefer, "Veal-ites"….

mgdavey26 Jan 2012 10:23 a.m. PST

George Carlin once said, "There are 2 kinds of drivers, Bleeped texts and mainiacs. An Bleeped text is anybody who drives slower than you, and a maniac is anybody who drives faster than you." The same applies to knowledge apparently. "There are two kinds of wargamers: hopeless morons and insufferable pendants."

JJartist26 Jan 2012 10:53 a.m. PST

"way-LEE-tays."

Dave Crowell26 Jan 2012 2:59 p.m. PST

/Weedy gits in wolf skins/

bilsonius26 Jan 2012 7:07 p.m. PST

I've been called a few things but I don't think I've ever been called an "insufferable pendant…"

Russell12012027 Jan 2012 3:02 a.m. PST

This pdf

PDF link

uses the Vox Latina noted earlier as a source, but is a much pared down.

Martin Rapier27 Jan 2012 4:53 a.m. PST

"How do I say this without sounding like an insufferable pillock?"

That is possibly the most important consideration. I also learnt Latin at school, but you'd have to hammer nails into my spine to get me to pronounce Velites as starting with W in public.

I call them Vee-lights.

Thwow him to the gwound wuffly.

korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2012 9:30 a.m. PST

Ps(O)

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP30 Jan 2012 8:47 a.m. PST

WAY-lih-tes

or

FUHR-reez

^,^

Mrs Pumblechook31 Jan 2012 10:49 p.m. PST

Just for interest sake, how would you pronounce vigiles?

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP03 Feb 2012 1:09 p.m. PST

Don't think I've ever used vigiles in a sentence before. Had to look that up to check vowel length. They're all short vowels, so that would be: WIH-gih-les

TKindred03 Feb 2012 5:35 p.m. PST

Vee-GEE-lays.

The working class don't use "w" sounds. We leave that to the patricians. wink

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