"Confederate Regulars" Topic

Hi guys, i'm after information on this type of unit, who were they, where they formed and based, Were they regulars who banded together of were they formed by state.

Your assistance is appreciated.

M

There were no units in the Confederate army that were regulars. A fairly large number of officers left the army at the start of the war and went with the South. Only a handful of enlisted men went with the South. The Confederacy did create a regular army and appointed a number of officers to be regulars. There may have been some enlisted men recruited as well I don't recall. But they did not have time to create a regular army as such.

Are you referring to units titled "Confederate" units as opposed to a state's name?

I've found three 'Confederate' (as differentiated from
State) units.

3rd Confederate Cavalry 6/62-6/64 rifleman@cei.net (Joseph James)

7th Regiment Confed. Cavalry jweaks@forevermedia.com (James A. Weaks)

15th CSA Cavalry Co. E 1864-5 bama1957@earthlink.net (Henry Skinner)

The e-dresses are folks who are supposed to know
something about these units and may point you to
other information.

The source from which I extracted this info is about
8 months old (June, 2011).

There were no units in the Confederate army that were regulars.

There were, if by Regulars we mean forces of the Confederate government rather than the Volunteer units of the various states.
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My GGGrandfather (Noah Parker) was in the 15th Confederate Cavalry Company E and this unit was made up of Florida and Alabama Units. Although he was living in Alabama, he is in the Florida Soldiers of the Civil War Book.

Confederate units were paid by the Central government. State units by the State of course.
'Militia', Home Guard formations in Alabama were classified as Battalions and not Regiments. These included formations raised by counties and cities for self-protection and temporary units formed at training camps prior to being assigned to their units. The temporary units also included men returning from furlough due to recovering from wounds.

10th CSA Cavalry were drawn fro mAlabama and from Hilliard's Legion (5th Bn) when it disbanded.

The 8th CSA cavalry Rgt recruited 8 men from Randolph County Ala.

Looking through my sources, I have found an OOB for the Regular Army of the Confederate States of America.

The Confederate Congress, on March 6, 1861, passed 'an act to provide for the public defense'. It called for the estrablishment of a regualr standing army, which would have the same organization as all state and volunteer units.

The army was to consist of 6,000-10,000 men. I have been able to identify six regiments (numbered 1st through 6th) labeled as 'Confedrate' instead of any state name (i.e. 1st Confederate, etc.). This is supported by several OOB's as well.

At Shiloh, the 2nd Confederate fought in Breckenridge's Corps, while the 3rd Confederate was in Hardee's Corps.

The 3rd and 5th Confederate Infantry fought in Polk's brigade of Hill's Corps at Chickamauga.

I have also found information detailing at least 10 regiments of Confederate Cavalry, similarly supported by OOB information. (i.e. at Chickamauga, the 1st, 3rd, and 8th Confederate regiments fought in Wheeler's Cavalry Corps, while the 10th Confederate fough tin Forrest's Cavalry Corps)

The infantry regiments were to have a prescribed strength of 1145 according to the regulations established on March 6, 1861. % Regimental Officers, and 10x companies each consisting of 14 Command personnel and musicians, and 64-100 privates. The number of privates was increased to a minimum of 125 per company per the new regulations of October 11, 1862, however this number was never achieved.

The Cavalry regiments were established with a strength of 755 on March 6, 1861. 5 regimental officers, and 10 companies consisting of 16 Headquarters personnel and 60 privates (increased to 80 privates at a minimum on October 11, 1862… again, never reached).

I hope this helps you in your research. I don't claim to be the authority, but I have quite an extensive library to refer to, and I would be happy to help in whatever way I might.

Happy research to you!!!!

All "regular" units and the vast majority of officers actually served in the "Provisional Army of the Confederate States" (PACS) and not the "Army of the Confederate States of America" (ACSA). Only a handful of high ranking officers were appointed to the ACSA to ensure that they would always outrank all militia, state, and PACS officers.

"The Provisional Army of the Confederate States (PACS) was authorized by the Provisional Confederate Congress on February 28, 1861, and began organizing on April 27. Virtually all regular, volunteer, and conscripted men preferred to enter this organization since officers could achieve a higher rank in the Provisional Army than they could in the Regular Army. If the war had ended successfully for them, the Confederates intended that the PACS would be disbanded, leaving only the ACSA.[2]
The Army of the Confederate States of America (ACSA) was the regular army, provided for by Act of Confederate Congress on March 6, 1861. It was authorized to include 15,015 men, including 744 officers, but this level was never achieved. The men serving in the highest rank as Confederate States Generals, such as Samuel Cooper and Robert E. Lee, were enrolled in the ACSA to ensure that they outranked all militia officers.[2] ACSA ultimately existed only on paper. The organization of the ACSA did not proceed beyond the appointment and confirmation of some officers. Three state regiments were later denominated "Confederate" regiments but this appears to have had no practical effect on the organization of a regular Confederate army and no real effect on the regiments themselves."

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There is a book on the subject: "The Confederate Regular Army" by Richard P. Weinert jr.

There were only a few Infantry Regiments of the Provisional Army of the Confederate States that I know of, and Lou has identified these. There were not more because no provision was made for recruitment, and no desire by citizens to join the 'regular' army on a permanent basis.

Thanks guys thats bang on…..I had seen the wiki site, but well you know.

Cheers again
Martin.

enfant perdus,
Thanks for providing that link. I know 1st Sgt Green personally and can vouch for his dedication and commitment to accuracy. Scott has probably faced him accross the field as well.