"Do you allow d-apps in your games?" Topic

When playing in a game, do you allow gamers to get results using dice apps on their phones, or must they roll actual dice?

Nope, never.

Roll them bones.

No

what sound does an App make when you shake them?

what sound does an App user make when you shake them?

Never had it come up. I do remember thinking about getting a "Dragonbone" electronic dice wand back when they were on the market for RPGing, but couldn't then justify the bucks.

No way. I don't know who wrote the app or if they put in some sort of cheat function. With dice, at least there is the illusion of fairness.

I have never had anyone object to my use of one. But most of the time I have real dice with me anyways.

This has come up, and I don't allow them at my table.

Dice only except for a friend who plays D&D with us via phone and internet. Then we use a dice room that all can see his rolls while he watches our side via camera.

The dice are part of the fun and the experience. I have a dice rolling app on the Tab, but I prefer the real thing.

Doug

I don't use one myself but see no objections to one. Probably better balanced than their favourite dice.

x42

I probably wouldn't mind. Never been asked.

I have a dice app that can be programmed, useful if you want specific dice rolls for games.

I have it with me as a kind of substitute to the little bag of dice some people have with them all the time.

Oddly enough, the first remark some people made when they saw the dice app was "it's for cheating, right ?" Generally the older players do, I've never heard one of the younger generation make such assumptions.

> I've never heard one of the younger generation make such assumptions.

They are still gullable…

Dice app is a pretty good idea, I just don't have a device to make it less hassle then actual dice yet. (cheap phone, crummy e-reader, etc…)

It's never come up before, but now I know I can get a dice app for my iPhone.

:)

No electronic random number generator is truly random.

Roll the dice, but not through the figures and terrain.

No electronic random number generator is truly random.

The difference between what is mathematically truly "random" and what is only technically "psuedo-random" is the sort of ultra-dorkiness that should not bother us here. For all practical purposes a properly programmed random number generator will do what we require.

An electronic dice roller with a genuinely random input, such as via the motion sensor and the shaking of an iPod, will solve even those trivial issues.

All the complaints about dice rollers not being random apply a million times over when put into video games. I haven't seen it worrying the users of Call of Duty.

I didn't even know such a thing could exist.

If someone tries this in one of my games I'll force him to roll the phone.

Last time I bought a phone I had to argue for ten minutes because they wanted to sell me some phones that did lots of things that I don't need. At the end I told them that I wanted a phone which could telephone and nothing else, not a phone that could make coffee.

Amen, Patrice. It really ticked me off that the simpler phone is also more expensive.

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I use Dicenomicon app … for a several reasons … 1) It makes noises just like real dice being rolled 2) It prints the results in big white numbers which I and others in my group can easily see 3) They used some of my dice shapes in the app :) 4) The rolls are much more fair than when I roll (I have horrible luck) … So to answer the question … Yes .. I and GM's I play with allow them

Real dice!

"Your random dice app has rolled a 6 again. Weird."

Nope – dice and dice only.

Strange 3d multi-sided objects for me

As an ex-programmer I would trust them as far as I could comfortably spit out a rat facing into the wind.

If you want to use an app to roll the dice, it's important to use one that shows the die rolling and tumbling – just to make sure the computer isn't cheating on the die result.

BTW, the wole discussion about truely random vs pseudo-random is of no concern to gamers. A real die isn't random either (unless you use casino-quality dice -- Lou Zocchi can tell you something about that …).

Most pseudo-random number generators (often based on Mersenne twisters) built in in programming languages are advanced enough not to see the differences, unless you use billions of numbers for high-dimensional Monte Carlo integration procedures or something similar.