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95thRegt13 May 2012 10:04 a.m. PST

MY suggestions:

For research material: Anything by Don Troiani.

Figures: Perry, Fife and Drum for 28mm, Sash and Saber for 40mm

Rules: Whatever you like

Flags: Flag guy, GMB


45thdiv Supporting Member of TMP08 Jun 2012 7:20 a.m. PST

John and Bob, thanks for the posts. I wanted to start AWI as the units have a lot of variety. I am planning to use the ne Maurice rules.


Hal Thinglum Supporting Member of TMP11 Jun 2012 5:04 p.m. PST

Very nicely done piece of work, John! One of my AWI projects is with Hinchliffe figures and as you, I really like them.

Also have 25mm "Old School" (Custom Cast, Minifig, Wall, SKT, Frontier, Tradition, "S"-Range Minifigs) and 15mm (Peter Pig, Essex, Frontier, and Washington's Wars).

Also have nearly 1,000 20mm B&B Miniatures for the AWI which I am not going to use.

Thanks – Hal

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP02 Jul 2013 5:37 a.m. PST

Once again this gets referenced.
I must have done something right! grin

Fried Flintstone14 Jul 2013 2:23 a.m. PST

Great post
Thanks John

epturner Supporting Member of TMP15 Jul 2013 3:19 p.m. PST


Does The Missus know that?

If I had that many figures I'm not going to use, I'd be flogged by Herself for that.

That being said… you wouldn't have a list handy, would you?



Edwulf16 Jul 2013 4:36 p.m. PST

I've just started. I've done it in 6mm. When I've finished i will have

2 highland battalions.
2 veteran line battalions
8 regular battalions
2 grenadier battalions
2 light battalions
8 RA guns ( not sure how to orginize these)
6 light dragoon squadrons ( I know far too many but I intend to use these for a seven years war army.
6 hessian musketeer battalions
2 Hessian fusilieer battalions
4 Hessian grenadier battalions
4 hessian guns
3 native war bands
1 hessian jäger battalion.
A baggage train.

Probably will never need to field all in one go. But will have lots of options for scenarios. Gone for the OFMs suggestion and done a smattering of different facings. At this size a yellow faced regiment can pass for about 10 different regiments.

Field Marshal24 Jul 2013 10:51 p.m. PST

Fantastic post Fartmeister!…..I am just now delving into the world of AWI and shall follow your formula!

nightprowler26 Jul 2013 4:35 a.m. PST

Do you know, between our members at our club we have a large 15mm AWI collection which we have accumulated over the last few years. But this is the best advice I've seen regarding building a collection. Well done, OFM. By the way, my Fusiliers wear bearskins!

CHuDWah27 Jul 2013 11:53 a.m. PST

Since this thread has been resurrected…

In a 01 Jan 2012 post, Cheriton described how to archive the thread. While that method certainly will work, there is an easier one.

Download a program called PDFill ( Once installed, it appears as a selection on the printer list. Just select the print command, select PDFill as the printer, enter a file name and folder location (or accept the default) in the "save as" box that pops up, and it will be saved as a PDF file. If the thread has multiple pages, they have to be saved as separate files but the program has a feature to merge them into one (or split a single file into multiple pages). It also has some other tools for manipulating PDF files.

PDFill will work with any program that has a print command. And best of all, while it has a paid editor add-on, the basic program is FREE!

Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in PDFill. I promote it because I find it VERY useful.

BombAlleySAM12 Sep 2013 7:54 a.m. PST

Some great advice there OFM – only one slight discrepancy. Surely the 33rd Regiment of Foot wore red facings and not white. A good Yorkshire regiment and the future 'Duke of Wellingtons'.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2013 8:11 a.m. PST

I was corrected on this matter earlier on this topic. grin

My bad.

BombAlleySAM12 Sep 2013 8:18 a.m. PST

OK, sorry about that.

Old Contemptibles Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2013 9:49 a.m. PST

I have mixed Perry and Foundry figures in the same unit and have not noticed much difference, they look fine to me as long as they are painted the same way, YMMV. Highly recommend Perry figures, especially for the Southern Campaign.

dantheman Supporting Member of TMP29 Jun 2014 10:45 a.m. PST

Well OFM…

I'm resurrecting the dead again and asking how many figures do you use for a regiment and what is the number of Line, LI, and Grenadiers used per regiment?


Winston Smith30 Jun 2014 4:04 a.m. PST

For British I paint 18 center company with 6 stands of 3, and 1 stand each of LI and grenadiers.
Hessians get 18-24 line and 6 grenadiers.
Special Loyalist and Continental regiments get drafted by the number of packs I have to buy to get them. Average size is 12-18 figure units in multiples of 3.

British and Hessian regiments have a more formal organization while with Patriots and loyalists I can always have a generic base on hunting shirt or militia added to flesh them out.
I have a nice large number of generic stands which I call my Deserter Description Corps. For example, I got a full box of Old Glory 2nd hunting shirt and just painted different color shirts with 2 Gostelowe command stands.
A bag of 30 Continental Marines became 2 battalions of Philadelphia Associators. Etc.

I am channelling the OFM here. I know how his mind works.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP30 Jan 2016 12:01 p.m. PST

I hope that in TMP 4.007, we can put my advice, and others like it, in such a way as to keep this at the top. grin

JimDuncanUK30 Jan 2016 2:25 p.m. PST

I come late to this story but well done that man.

gregoryk02 Feb 2016 6:00 p.m. PST

AWI is a wonderful period to game. I personally use 10mm for the good range of figures and ease of storage, there is a fair amount of terrain available for this scale, too.

Clays Russians04 Feb 2016 7:14 p.m. PST

I had the unusual delima of getting real close to running out of figures to paint (a rarity of extreme occurrence) bought black powder. Oooooh aaaaaah, had a fist full of Yankee dollars and saw Liberty or death, problem solved, mix with Perrys. No issues……a bit of an accident really, I was going to do peninsula war but found some very interesting genealogy records out of New Jersey regarding 2 family links to 1st regiment NJV loyalist line. Green faced cream/white….. Got all a-Twitter with excitement.

Winston Smith14 Feb 2016 4:26 p.m. PST

I should have suggested that in the third round of painting, the British should include some Loyalist units.

Old Contemptibles Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2016 7:38 p.m. PST

All assuming you are doing them in 28mm. Which you should because of the small battles and the superb figures available in that scale. If you only do one period in 28mm, then this is the one.

Winston Smith30 Jul 2016 7:19 a.m. PST

I really like King's Mountain for variable figures.
There is a nice selection of poses and a very wide variety of heads. This gives a nice "grubby campaign" look, particularly to the militia.

Winston Smith19 Jan 2017 5:07 p.m. PST

I noticed that this thread did not reference flags.
So I started a thread in the "Getting Started" board about flags.

Wee Davey19 Oct 2017 7:14 p.m. PST

Another set of rules worth a look is 'Land of the Free', which cover F&I War, AWI and War of 1812. It includes some excellent scenarios and plenty of good illustrations and figure photographs.

Normal Guy Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2017 5:23 a.m. PST

John, you indeed did do something right with your original post and list. It serves as an excellent primer in how to start and where to do. I have a fairly substantial collection myself in 28mm and as I went down your list I kept thinking to myself, "Yep" after every point. Well done as evidenced by how many guys reference it.

TacticalPainter0128 Jan 2018 12:56 p.m. PST

Any thoughts on the best skirmish rules for the AWI?

Personal logo FlyXwire Supporting Member of TMP28 Jan 2018 2:41 p.m. PST

My vote – Muskets & Tomahawks by Studio Tomahawk.

Superb and elegant set of rules!

95th Division Supporting Member of TMP28 Jan 2018 7:19 p.m. PST

Sharp Practice by TFL is a great set of rules for AWI.

TacticalPainter0129 Jan 2018 1:52 a.m. PST

I have both of those, so that looks like a good place to start.

Personal logo FlyXwire Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2018 12:09 p.m. PST

We've been enjoying playing M&T lately with a slightly different action card method, which has really enhanced the gameplay for us. Instead of drawing s single card off the deck to determine the class and player side that is currently activated, we play that each side selects from a hand of three cards they hold in secret, which is then replenished after each single card is played from it. The turn sequence goes back and forth (IGOUGO) from one side to another, and whatever the phasing side plays as a card, that troop class and side activates. Note that a card played may be for the other side's troops too, as each side draws from a common, single card pile to replenish their cards from. This is the most interesting facet of the mod, in that player sides will often be playing "defense" through strategically playing the opposition's cards they possess, forcing the other side to activate units they might not wish to order. I don't know who came up with this fun sequencing modification (a friend ran across it online), but it's made M&T even more enthralling for us! (keep this in mind if you get into M&T, as something possibly to try out later once you're up to speed with the rules).

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