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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2011 11:53 a.m. PST

Want to buy these book, but first wonder to know if anybody had read it and if you did, which are your opinions?
Maybe there are some more detailed about that Ride?


This phrase is committed to the facts??

"…While the results of this raid are still debated by historians, no one has ever doubted its boldness, and west of the Mississippi it became common to boast, "You've heard of Jeb Stuart's ride around McClellan? Hell, brother, Jo Shelby rode around MISSOURI"

Many thanks in advance for your guidance.


HistoryPhD Inactive Member31 Dec 2011 1:23 p.m. PST

Yes, the military effectiveness of the "raid" is debatable, though it was quite and embarrassment for the Union commanders in Missouri. And in the West, it definitely was held up as a greater accomplishment than Stuart's ride.

PKay Inc Inactive Member31 Dec 2011 1:37 p.m. PST

"You've heard of Jeb Stuart's ride around McClellan? Hell, brother, Jo Shelby rode around MISSOURI"

Hmmm. It seems that Jo was just ahead of his time, as most now prefer to go around Missouri rather than through it.

HistoryPhD Inactive Member31 Dec 2011 1:45 p.m. PST

Shelby also refused to lay down his arms after the collapse of the Confederacy and he and most of his brigade made what's called "Jo Shelby's March" to Mexico to carry on guerilla warfare from there. Of course it didn't turn out quite like Shelby had envisaged.

William Warner31 Dec 2011 5:04 p.m. PST

Very clever, PKay, but for what reason do you believe that most would prefer to go around Missouri rather than through it?

rusty musket Inactive Member31 Dec 2011 5:20 p.m. PST

William Warner, please don't let the thread be hijacked. Leave PKay alone in wherever he is.

William Warner31 Dec 2011 5:45 p.m. PST

Apologies to all.

The battle at Marshall, Missouri, which climaxed the raid, was a dandy little affair that would make an exciting skirmish game. I have not seen the book but the Shelby raid is certainly a fascinating event. After his march to Mexico, Shelby continued to carry on guerrilla warfare, but on the side of Maximilian against the forces of Juarez, rather than against the Union.

Major Mike01 Jan 2012 7:21 a.m. PST

Sterling Price does another ride around Missouri in 1864, but it ain't no raid. Thrusts toward St. Louis, then towards Jefferson City and Independance, then on towards Kansas City. Union troops rushed by rail to the State. The big battle of the campaign is at Westport but there are many small ones too.

Landorl01 Jan 2012 8:26 p.m. PST

I think Sterling Price's "Raid" had a little larger impact. Shelby raided with 800 or so men. Price marched north with about 12,000 men. This one had a major impact. Troops heading to help Sherman were diverted to help fight Price's army.

Major Mike01 Jan 2012 8:49 p.m. PST

Some of the troops pulled to oppose Price were taken from Thomas at Nashville. They returned in the nick of time to join the Union attack at Nashville against Hood.

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