Tango01 | 29 Dec 2011 9:46 p.m. PST |
Dear fellow members, need help for a local wargamer of WW1 who want to buy and paint a unit of Montenegrin soldiers. There is a pic of them.
But infortunally in black and white. So, two questions please: 1°) Which company sold this soldiers in 25mm or 28mm (metal) 2°) Any guidance about the colors of their uniforms and caps? Thanks in advance for your help!. Amicalement Armand |
Grelber | 29 Dec 2011 11:26 p.m. PST |
Part of the Montenegrin army wore a brown service dress, with white leggings. The reserves wore national dress, with white leggings, baggy blue trousers, what looks like a white coat with a red or crimson waistcoat over it. This was subject to incividual variations. The caps the lads in the photo are wearing would be black with a red top, for the reserves (this was initially their only uniform item), or dark blue for other troops, and brown caps with the brown uniform. It looks like the soldiers in the photo are kind of a mix. None of my sources mention the striped cloaks. Troops were armed with the Russian three-line rifle and the Berdan II rifle the Russian Army had used in the late 1800s. I thought perhaps Tiger carried Montenegrin troops as part of their Balkan War line, but I didn't see them. Some sources include: Military Uniforms of the World by Preben Kannik Arms and Uniforms: The First World War, Part 1 by Liliane and Fred Funcken Armies of the Balkan States, 1914-1918 by the (British) General Staff, War Office Grelber |
mossdocking | 30 Dec 2011 2:49 a.m. PST |
Think Irregular are doing a Balkans war range in 15mm and Tiger in 28mm |
argsilverson | 30 Dec 2011 3:34 a.m. PST |
Tiger has plans to make them. Old glory has a couple of packs ww1-900 & ww1-901 but never seen one. a proxy would be serbian infantry, regulars in the ww1 were similar uniforms. I doubt that in the ww1 they still used the traditional dress. Some web links for uniforms: link link link link |
bogdanwaz | 30 Dec 2011 6:39 a.m. PST |
I have a pack of the Old Glory Montenegrin infantry. They are pretty nice figures. They are in the service dress uniforms. |
Pan Marek | 30 Dec 2011 7:53 a.m. PST |
Hate to be picky, but are we sure the photo is from WWI? The caption does not mention a date, or even the enemy they're marching out to fight. Could it be from the Balkan Wars? As I understand it, the Montenegrins didn't wear "drab" uniforms in those conflicts. Could explain the multicolored clothing. |
Tango01 | 30 Dec 2011 10:32 a.m. PST |
Many, many thanks boys for your very good guidance.!. Pan Marek, I really don't know, the pic was picked up from a WW1 link. (That's what the guy who send me said about it). Amicalement Armand |
The Virtual Armchair General | 30 Dec 2011 12:57 p.m. PST |
Okay! And just to keep the pot boiling, TVAG is about to release two differently uniformed 54mm Montenegrins cast in resin as part of the new "Little Warriors" line. Other Balkanoid sculpts in 54mm (Greeks, Romanians, Bulgarians, Serbians) are already completed and will be released at the same time as the Monties. Should be rolling out this Winter--with so much else! TVAG |
Tricorne1971 | 30 Dec 2011 11:20 p.m. PST |
I have some Montenegrin 25mm (really 28mm) from a range made in the late 1970's for the Balkan Wars. I will try and find the mfg. Anyone remember these? |
abdul666lw | 31 Dec 2011 9:57 a.m. PST |
Books about WWI published in the 1920 (saw them in my grand mother library, long ago) showed -in photos and uniform plates- Montenegrin 'infantry' (probably reservists) in such costume at the start of the war. Could not the 'striped cloaks' be blankets? The unit looks in a pretty bad shape. |
79thPA | 02 Jan 2012 10:10 a.m. PST |
TVAG--Oh my. I'll have to take a look at those when they come out. |
79thPA | 02 Jan 2012 10:12 a.m. PST |
TVAG--While you are at it. Can you do a heavy machine gun? None of the plastics manufacturers seem to want to make a good old Maxim or similiar in 54mm. |
Durando | 20 Jan 2012 12:11 a.m. PST |
Bogdanwaz could you place some pics of yours up as I have been interested in the Old Glory ones but no one has any pics |