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Locknar19 Dec 2011 10:43 a.m. PST

Just noticed this

seems to be for sale at Warhammer Historical finally!

link

Personal logo Gattamalata Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2011 10:47 a.m. PST

Meh…

At 28.00 for 208 paged hardback, I'd wait to see some reviews. I'm waiting for a corrected reprint of the WAB 2.0 book.

UK John Inactive Member19 Dec 2011 12:02 p.m. PST

long overdue – but will it bring the disaffected back?

Princeps19 Dec 2011 12:03 p.m. PST

No, I've moved on to Hail Caesar. WAB 2.0 just had too many errors/problems in it. I was pretty disappointed in it.

Rassilon Inactive Member19 Dec 2011 12:03 p.m. PST

Double the current listed price of the WAB 2.0 rulebook!

… and great marketing! No announcement, no newsletter update! :D

Personal logo Gattamalata Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2011 12:38 p.m. PST

Double the listed price of the WAB 2.0 rulebook!

Normally 4.00 short of the WAB 2.0 RRP of £32.00 GBP I wonder how much these lists culled from their books have been updated and will there be errata for the errata?laugh After years making do with the errata and WAB 1.0, I recently purchased a copy of WAB 1.5.

Rassilon Inactive Member19 Dec 2011 12:48 p.m. PST

Semantics… it's twice the 50% off listed sale price of the rulebook. :P :) [ but it's still twice the current price. ;) ]

Hehehehe… :) :) :)

No matter… I won't be ordering it. I specifically got into WAB because of their expanded supplement format. I never bought the original AoA. :P

UK John Inactive Member19 Dec 2011 1:14 p.m. PST

maybe a soft launch? The Hail Caesar army list book beat them to the punch!

Locknar19 Dec 2011 1:22 p.m. PST

a very soft launch. You would think you would promote the book with some tournaments with some of the new lists. Also whats does this mean for all the old supplements?

Personal logo RelliK Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Dec 2011 1:27 p.m. PST

"Also whats does this mean for all the old supplements?"

What ever works! Half the fun is cross reffing this book with all those supps…

Mike

P.S. Hi Martin!

ZeroTwentythree19 Dec 2011 2:09 p.m. PST

I to will be waiting in hopes of seeing a copy "in the flesh." I'm alternating between hopeful and skeptical and would like to review it a bit first.


Also whats does this mean for all the old supplements?

My understanding (from info on the WAB Forum & WABlist) is that these are different lists, as an alternative to the supplements. But the point values are different.

galvinm Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2011 6:57 p.m. PST

Of course they are.

That way you have to wait and buy 12 new books.

I think I'll pass. Again.

cherrypicker Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2011 7:28 p.m. PST

I'm going to get a copy as I still like WAB and I still have fun with it which is what I'm after

Jules

Personal logo Gattamalata Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2011 8:18 p.m. PST

That way you have to wait and buy 12 new books.

One didn't have to buy all the books the first time round and AFAIK, there won't be any future period supplements, since Forge World lacks the resources and is catering to tournament players with "balanced" army lists like FoG.

Personal logo oldbob Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2011 9:18 p.m. PST

I wonder if any of "JJ" successor lists are in this book? Well I'll answer why own question, it look like "JJ" lists have been Incorporated into this book!

Personal logo RelliK Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Dec 2011 10:53 p.m. PST

I guess your right BOB…

ZeroTwentythree20 Dec 2011 11:28 a.m. PST

I think the only thing we can say with certainty at this point is that there are Successor lists of some sort in the book. Whether they're Jeff's (I assume that's who you mean by JJ) or not… we'll have to wait for someone to examine the lists.

Locknar20 Dec 2011 11:40 a.m. PST

Yes very curious about the Sucessor and Pontic lists.

Personal logo RelliK Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Dec 2011 12:10 p.m. PST

I bought my copy today. They are good guys there. Rather than speculate, givem a call and make an order.

Mike

UK John Inactive Member20 Dec 2011 4:08 p.m. PST

wonder if the HYW Clash of Kingdoms and other period specific supplements will also come out or if this is the WAB Parthian Shot?

Rassilon Inactive Member20 Dec 2011 9:46 p.m. PST

That's my worry UK John…

Torvol Inactive Member21 Dec 2011 1:03 a.m. PST

Just checked WABlist on yahoo.

Looks like this new book might be the only army list book allowed for WAB at Enfilade 2012.

So I will be purchasing a copy.

Sane Max21 Dec 2011 6:07 a.m. PST

I am Especially curious as to whether any elements of my Pontic list made it into this.

However, in line with the angsty discussion on the WABlist

Does anyone see a listing between the Republican Roman and the Early Imperial Roman List? It was claimed this was a typo when the contents were first bruited about, but I see no Marian list.

Pat

ZeroTwentythree21 Dec 2011 7:09 a.m. PST

Martin said that the Republican list covers all of the Republic period, including Marian.

Sane Max21 Dec 2011 7:56 a.m. PST

Ah, so in two pages of A4 they will cover the army that fought Philip of Macedon up to the army that fought under Pompey and Caesar?

Hope they use a very small font.

Pat

Personal logo oldbob Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2011 8:05 a.m. PST

Well according to Martin, some of "JJ" stuff is used,not all. Mainly because their are no specific rules per army in this book, like in the supplements. I will more than likely buy this book anyway.

Mithridates21 Dec 2011 6:21 p.m. PST

Have ordered this and am most interested in what they have done with the Successors and Pontic armies.

Personal logo RelliK Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Dec 2011 9:45 p.m. PST

I AGREE Garry.

Mike

Tim Haslam UK Inactive Member22 Dec 2011 3:57 a.m. PST

I feel there is a little misinformation on this this new book.

The idea is simple, a return to the original AoA format, with quick two page army lists to get beginners (and tourney players) started, and cover a vast period of history with as many lists allowed in the GW average 'book' size (which works out as 100 lists)
As an occasional tournament player, I welcome such a book, as I now only have to carry this and the rule book around events!
As a beginner, I would think this will act as a good starting point, should I wish to explore the Punic Wars in depth, Im sure Ill be pointed towards the relevant (and successful) supplement.
As far as Im aware there is no dark plan to destroy or supersede all previous work, this is a project started quite a while ago, which has finally been produced.
If youre going to start such a mammoth task, surely the best thing to do is use a constant point structure? This was intentional and for the same reason it has been deliberately pointed to only work with the lists available. It has not been designed to work elsewhere in the WH series.

Now of course the original 'full' supplements will work much better within period, and AoA does NOT replace these.

So don't expect miracle lists here, we'd all prefer to see proper supplements, but that's something for FW to sort in the future, (and is a completely different subject!)
As I recall the first AoA was received very favourably, maybe we should give this new one a chance?

In the meantime enjoy some 'official' Successors and weird and wonderful later Indian lists, and maybe a sensible Japanese list to!

Merry Christmas!

UK John Inactive Member22 Dec 2011 11:25 a.m. PST

Tim

The first AoA was in the honeymoon period when love of WAB was all dewy eyed….

That seems a long time ago now

Are you swinging back to WAB from COE?

Tim Haslam UK Inactive Member23 Dec 2011 4:07 p.m. PST

Still a mad CoE fan I'm afraid!
CoE is new, and has healthy support from it's producers.

This is an AoA thread though,
and I'm only suporting the hard work done by Martin and co.

Being there at the new AoA's conception, I feel the urge to try and get the correct story across.
I'm sure this will be good for all WAB players, old and new.

UK John Inactive Member27 Dec 2011 10:06 p.m. PST

there were some of us who enjoyed the crazy samurai list ;)

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