| Matthew83 | 15 Dec 2011 10:24 p.m. PST |
Hi all, I'm wondering, does anybody do rules covering the various civil wars in zululand?
Anything covering the rise of Shaka to cetswayo's beef with his brother?
I'm talking battles of 20,000+ per side.
I'm not a gamer, been painting for years and painting my current zulus got me thinking, if anything gets me gaming it'll be this. Thanks in advance Matt |
| 6sided | 16 Dec 2011 4:18 a.m. PST |
Black powder should cover it, or I suppose you could use Hail Caesar, which is more melee/unit focused and both armies would have melee weapons only. Cheers Jaz
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| evicatos | 16 Dec 2011 4:34 a.m. PST |
Not specfic rules but look at some of the Dark Ages games that allow differences in motivation and ability between different warriors with the same weapons. Saga, Glutter Of Ravens, Pig Wars (?) and others I have forgotten. I think these might play better than colonial rules for this sort of warfare. |
Dr Mathias  | 16 Dec 2011 7:43 a.m. PST |
Death in the Dark Continent uses element basing, if you went small scale figures you could do some massive looking battles and maybe even pull off some of the hypothetical formations. DitDC is pretty much a reimagining of In the Heart of Africa if you happen to know of those rules. I feel like indigenous vs. indigenous is unexplored territory. I'm not really sure why… could be lack of historical or written accounts, or maybe gamers don't like symmetrical opposing forces? I've wanted to do some Azande vs. Azande battles for quite some time, or Masai vs. Turkana… |
| Matthew83 | 16 Dec 2011 8:57 a.m. PST |
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 The Virtual Armchair General  | 16 Dec 2011 10:46 a.m. PST |
"The Sword And The Flame" and it's Battalion Level Variant, "800 Fighting Englishmen" have represented Zulus for over 30 years, and there's no reason not to turn them on each other with either/both of these rules. Try the author/publisher's website at sergeants3.com to get both sets. TVAG |
 ColCampbell  | 16 Dec 2011 10:46 a.m. PST |
The last game in our Green Nile campaign run many years ago pitted Dervishes with German advisers against the Yazuloo in large action. We used TSATF rules. link Jim |
| Matthew83 | 16 Dec 2011 11:44 a.m. PST |
These replies are fantastic, just what I'm looking for and give much to ponder on.
I'm sure there is an abundance of material here I could put to good use.
Again, thank you. Matt |
| Pictors Studio | 16 Dec 2011 12:16 p.m. PST |
I'll probably be doing some of this and I'll probably use Hail, Caesar. Zulu civil wars are pretty interesting as well as bloody. |
| Matthew83 | 16 Dec 2011 1:03 p.m. PST |
Pictors Studio I agree they are, and bloody would perhaps be an understatement.
I find it fascinating that the zulu armies would often bring their wives and children to watch the battle knowing that the camp followers of the defeated side would also be put to death.
It says much for the confidence of the individual warriors, a confidence I am inclined to believe set them aside from the other nations pitted against europeans on the continent. Cheers Matt |
| dglennjr | 16 Dec 2011 2:34 p.m. PST |
Over on the DBA yahoo group there's been an active discussion and use of the rules for the battles between zulu tribes. (Zulus vs. Ndwandwe) -David G. |
| Matthew83 | 16 Dec 2011 8:01 p.m. PST |
dglennjr
I shall make my way there, do you have a link?
I've looked up DBA groups and there are more than a few. Cheers Matt |
