indierockclimber | 28 Nov 2011 5:57 a.m. PST |
read the review here: link |
John the OFM  | 28 Nov 2011 7:37 a.m. PST |
I bought two cans of the spray paint, for $12 apiece. The American olive drab leaked all over my hand the first time I tried to use it, and all over the floor. The nozzle on the Russian green broke later, with paint still left in the can. I did get quite a few tanks painted, though. That's a 100% failure rate, as far as I am concerned. OK, OK. 75%. Heck, even the Hobby Primers that I love to rant about here on TMP do not suck that badly. |
Dirty Jon | 28 Nov 2011 10:25 a.m. PST |
Weird -- I have used probably 10 cans of this stuff and never had a problem -- bad batch of nozzles or cans? I am pretty sure BF would send you new ones. |
kevanG | 28 Nov 2011 12:39 p.m. PST |
These are some of the nicest stuff I have seen you do indie
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Celtic Tiger | 28 Nov 2011 2:31 p.m. PST |
Can anyone tell me just what they mean by pigment. All paints have a pigment in them but I presume this is something else. |
VonBurge | 28 Nov 2011 2:34 p.m. PST |
A friend of mine had a big problem German Panzer Grey spray can. It just came out like "goo." BF did replace it for him. I've got other friends that have used the British, Russian, and German Grey very successfully. So it might just be hit or miss with these products. I have a DAK project planned where I wanted to repaint a big collection of "Axis & Allies" PzKw-III, IVF1, IVF2 etc tanks using this new EW/MW "DAK" color spray. Guess I'll have to abandon that idea and just do up the base colors by hand instead now given how "off" the color is. Thanks for the heads-up! |
VonBurge | 28 Nov 2011 2:37 p.m. PST |
Can anyone tell me just what they mean by pigment. All paints have a pigment in them but I presume this is something else. These are "solids." They get applied lightly to simulate mud, rust etc. They kind of get dusted on from what I understand, but I've not graduated to that level where I've started trying to use them myself. |
McWong73 | 28 Nov 2011 3:33 p.m. PST |
I found the first releases of the spray cans to have a high proportion of dodgy nozzels and also poor can quality – I had a couple of cans leak creating a god awful mess and stink in my wargames room (I now store all spray cans in the laundry). As has been covered extensively, in the first release I found the Soviet Green and US Olve drab to be excellent colours, and a real boon for someone looking at painting up 60+ tanks in these colours. The British Green was ok, not really a good match for the reccomended vallejo (Russian Green I believe, or Russian uniform?). The German yellow was very poor, and the German grey was rubbish. I was looking forward to the second releases, especially the new German yellow, but this review really has me scratching my head – though are you guys saying that the Italian spray is a better match for green ochre? I never once had a problem or issue with the tamiya dark yellow applied via an airbrush. To date, for me, it's the best dunkelgelb. I think though one problem people using the sprays have is that they assume that the spray colour is the only one you need apply, for me though it's more the finishing layers of drybrushing that brings out the dunkelgelb, not the initial base coat/primer. |
Dirty Jon | 28 Nov 2011 4:54 p.m. PST |
All- Note that this review covers this particular color -- see link in the review. In general, my experience with the BF spray cans has been good. McWong73 – they did release a can of Green Ochre for the Italians(see link in review), which I think would be better for early-ish DAK, as that is what BF recommends on their site for that. |
John the OFM  | 29 Nov 2011 7:40 a.m. PST |
I am pretty sure BF would send you new ones. I bought them at a convention, Historicon at Valley Forge, probably from BF. I also threw the cans away in disgust, so there is no proof beyond my word. If they want to replace them based on what I said above, I am easy to track down. |
Dirty Jon | 29 Nov 2011 8:31 a.m. PST |
@John: I doubt they patrol the TMP forums looking for issues to fix. However, I bet you that Joe Krone would take care of you if you tell him what happened at the next convention – he is good like that. |
Wartopia | 30 Nov 2011 7:47 a.m. PST |
I tried their spray paints when first released. Came out with satin finish rather than flat. Didn't take follow up detailing well as the surface was too shiny. Went back to Polly S. |
Poniatowski | 30 Nov 2011 1:34 p.m. PST |
My experience with their spray cans is most excellent!!! I have gone through about 2 1/2 cans of Soviet Armor, I have the Greman early war grey, dunklegeld (yellow) and one other I have been using. No clogs, no drips, no errors. I haven't used their pigments/inks? |