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Dropzonetoe Fezian27 Nov 2011 11:00 a.m. PST

This is a two part bit,

First is the materials;

Drywalling tape for the fence and Roofing tar paper for the concrete. Anyone use these materials and is there any suggestions to get the most out of them, stability, long lasting issues, etc.


Secondly

This is just a small mock up to test out ideas (I will be using some of these ideas in my long planned Call of Duty game board)

I wanted to make a roped of area of this material;

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It came out like this.

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It doesn't feel right to me and I just can't place it.
What is wrong with it? What needs to be changed?

Thanks,
Duane

Space Ghost27 Nov 2011 11:09 a.m. PST

Maybe a little too high for your figures? The times I recall seeing something like that around a construction site, it was maybe only just higher than six feet …. but that's just going off half memory and I did not pay much attention. Otherwise, looks fantastic as is, I personally do not see anything wrong with it!

TheGhost

28mmMan27 Nov 2011 11:19 a.m. PST

The drywall joint web tape that I use has an adhesive side to it…if yours does also then I would place your fence posts and then carefully sandwich two layers (even folding one layer in length half to reduce the height as mentioned above). This way you get extra strength and no open sticky side to collect random cat hairs, flies, dust, etc.

Looking good!

BrianW27 Nov 2011 11:20 a.m. PST

dropzonetoe,
I'm with TheGhost on this one. It looks like it is too tall. Other than that, it's a fantastic idea. Did you have to spray paint the drywall tape? The only color I've ever seen it in is white, but I haven't looked for it in other colors.
BWW

28mmMan27 Nov 2011 11:23 a.m. PST

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White, blue, green, and yellow…I have not seen orange :)

Dropzonetoe Fezian27 Nov 2011 11:33 a.m. PST

The size might be a good part of it I'll cut it down and see if that helps some.

I spray-painted it red, painted a yellow brown, and then painted over in orange. If I would have had it I would have spraypainted it orange from the get go.

Stealth100027 Nov 2011 11:41 a.m. PST

Just to high.

comstarhpg27 Nov 2011 11:42 a.m. PST

I think it looks good may be a little tall … but what makes it look wrong to me is that the post and the tape are not parallel and this may be what makes it 'look wrong', its our inner OCD i tell you!

Mr Clean 7227 Nov 2011 11:42 a.m. PST

That orange safety fence is about 4ft tall.I use it all the time at work.

Dropzonetoe Fezian27 Nov 2011 11:44 a.m. PST

Cut down – and it is much better! As a bonus I have the next whole section ready to base as well.

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Sometimes it is the simplest things that are the easiest to miss, Thanks all!

28mmMan27 Nov 2011 11:46 a.m. PST

Now that said, I have installed fencing that was that high. It was to secure inventory.

But you do see it that high around tennis courts

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28mmMan27 Nov 2011 11:47 a.m. PST

Dude…that was quick…lol.

Dropzonetoe Fezian27 Nov 2011 11:51 a.m. PST

Have to be quick or the horde will get through ;)

BrianW27 Nov 2011 2:41 p.m. PST

That looks much better.
BWW

comstarhpg27 Nov 2011 2:50 p.m. PST

Yep much better :)

ScoutII28 Nov 2011 12:06 a.m. PST

Good enough for government work. You might consider taking a look at a company like McMaster Carr though. You can pick and choose your mesh a bit better than what was designed for drywall work (plus no adhesive backing to much things up.

Cacique Caribe28 Nov 2011 1:45 a.m. PST

Mesh ribbon?

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Just go to a fabric or craft store and buy the color and mesh size that looks best.

Dan

ScoutII28 Nov 2011 8:19 a.m. PST

I have found the mesh ribbon to be a bit too fine for this type of application. Works wonders for bug screen as well as grills for things like motors.

If you take a look at this page:

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The the molded polypropylene mesh is almost perfect. Something like the 0.080" X .055" grid would provide fairly small spacing, with a pattern that is pretty close to the real product.

Cacique Caribe28 Nov 2011 8:29 a.m. PST

The problem is that if each of the enemy units carry their own guinea pigs then your mesh will be of no use:

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Dan

28mmMan28 Nov 2011 8:39 a.m. PST

Scout, great link thanks!

*****

Dan, easy fix for the guinea pig/cuy (coo ee) issue

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Cacique Caribe28 Nov 2011 8:44 a.m. PST

But, by the time you finally catch them*, they are already full of plastic, right?

And then you have the unstoppable giant guinea pigs used to attack underground bases:

YouTube link

Dan
*Have you tried to catch a guinea pig?

28mmMan28 Nov 2011 9:00 a.m. PST

"Have you tried to catch a guinea pig?"

Of course, that's how I made the BBQ:)

*****

The cut down fence is a great height. Another good thing is that it is so cheap that you can make damaged sections to replace on the board when the zombies break through :)

ScoutII28 Nov 2011 9:34 a.m. PST

While it isn't something that I have tried (yet) it is something that I likely would (will) do if (when) I do up some of this for myself…

Using the plastic that I linked to above…

1) Cut a section to a workable size.

2) Lay down a sheet of aluminum foil.

3) Place the plastic mesh on the foil.

4) Lay another sheet of aluminum foil covering the plastic mesh.

5) Lay a towel over the two sheets of foil and plastic mesh.

6) Grab the iron and crank it to 11.

7) Give it a good ironing.

With any luck, the heat from the iron and pressure should be able to deform the mesh so that you can get the flat plastic roll effect from the somewhat thicker mesh (the size I was eyeballing is about 0.5 mm thick). That would allow you to do the ubiquitous half roll hanging in the wind that you often see with this type of fencing.

Would need to play around with the settings of the iron and the particular mesh size…but for $20 you can get an assortment of the smallest mesh sizes from McMaster-Carr and see which works best.

28mmMan28 Nov 2011 9:40 a.m. PST

A hot air gun will do the same.

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You could try a hand torch just close enough to apply heat without direct flame :)

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ScoutII28 Nov 2011 10:12 a.m. PST

Remember though – you want to heat and compress. I reach for the iron to do that.

28mmMan28 Nov 2011 10:26 a.m. PST

Good point!

I use the torch and heat gun all the time for work…they are go to tools for me, but I see what you are saying.

Would make a fun comparison study :)

EricThe Shed01 Dec 2011 2:39 p.m. PST

Try this for mesh & chain fences – bought a roll of this in local poundstore will last me for ages. Will also work for leaded light windows when stuck on clear acetate. Will post a picture when I can sort out camera.


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Given up for good01 Dec 2011 2:56 p.m. PST

Need to read this thread again.

Seem to have jumped from Guinea Pigs to:

6) Grab the iron and crank it to 11
7) Give it a good ironing
A hot air gun will do the same

and you want to heat and compress!

EricThe Shed04 Dec 2011 1:26 p.m. PST

Gutter Guard turned into fence mesh…

C:\Documents and Settings\Giles\My Documents\My Pictures\Terrain\uRBAN

EricThe Shed04 Dec 2011 1:26 p.m. PST

that didn't work…

EricThe Shed04 Dec 2011 2:09 p.m. PST

Lets try again…Link fence behind dropship

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Thornhammer04 Dec 2011 8:01 p.m. PST

Bought a little bit of everything to try as fencing! Bought some of the drywall tape, some of the mesh ribbon, some tulle today, and some 10 mesh plastic sheets. Only thing I really had time to do today was draw out the framework – I'm starting with some 14' security fence for 15mm scale. Tomorrow I'll scan the drawing and run off a few copies to play with. I dug up a bunch of different materials to use as fence posts as well – plastic rod, brass rod, toothpicks.

Yesterday I experimented with toothpicks and mesh ribbon, and that didn't work well. A short length of drywall tape with toothpicks worked nicely, I will use that as interior fencing.

Tulle is really cheap – $1.47 a yard. The 10 mesh was something like .59 a sheet at Michaels, or two dollars and something for a six-pack at Wal-Mart.

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