"Airpower and ground armies 1940-. 1943" Topic
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| Kaoschallenged | 26 Nov 2011 10:42 a.m. PST |
I found the section on Patton and Weyland very interesting. I happen to have a copy of the CADRE paper on the XIX Tactical Air Command and Ultra concerning Patton and Ultra when it came to his use of XIX Tactical Air Command. Should be interesting to see how they compliment each other. Robert These four independent essays provide a perspective on airpower doctrine development that varies somewhat from the usual view. Essay 1 describes the organization, doctrine, operational practices, and personality of the air forces in the western desert from 1940 to 1943. Essay 2 describes and analyzes the events in northwest Africa during Operation Torch while the third analyzes the machination in policy development in Washington. Essay 4 analyzes the great tactical aviation exercise in northwest Europe, emphasizing the famous cooperation between George S. Patton and Otto P. Weyland.
Airpower and ground armies : essays on the evolution of Anglo-American air doctrine. 1940-. 1943
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| Kaoschallenged | 27 Nov 2011 1:30 p.m. PST |
So does anyone think that the use of Ultra was a very big advantage in the use of the XIX Tactical Air Command by Patton?
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| Kaoschallenged | 28 Nov 2011 12:39 p.m. PST |
Do you think that without Ultra the effectiveness of XIX Tactical Air Command would have been much harder and much less then it was ? Or would how Patton alone, along with the help of Weyland, in his style of command have made up somewhat for the loss of it? Robert |
| Kaoschallenged | 28 Nov 2011 6:38 p.m. PST |
There is this quote from the CADRE paper. So. Without Ultra would Patton have been as successful in his drive across France. Or would it have taken an entirely different course? Robert "General Patton's use of ULTRA in his historic drive across
France is a fitting thesis for a tactical epic . . . One message,as at Avranches, may turn the spear points of a German Army and save an entire campaign from disaster. Each day brings some item of value and interest and in many cases,the item is the motive force behind whole divisions. The service is so incredibly valuable that it requires time for an intelligent person to believe that it is really reliable. The first impression by other than the gullible is that it is too good tobe true.
—Maj Warrack Wallace, 18 September 1944
—Bletchley Park Observer to US Third Army" |
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