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Windward29 Oct 2011 9:40 p.m. PST

I mean in significant gaming terms, the radar of the E is better than the C, but aside from that I don't see much of a difference.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Oct 2011 2:49 a.m. PST

RWR, and more fuel, otherwise similar.

Lion in the Stars30 Oct 2011 7:33 p.m. PST

So no visible external differences at 1/300 scale, then?

Kaoschallenged30 Oct 2011 9:52 p.m. PST

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IIIC

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IIIE

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP31 Oct 2011 2:30 a.m. PST

Yep – the IIIE is longer by about a foot – not obvious at a glance, but becomes apparent if you look for where the cockpit is relative to the air intakes.

emckinney31 Oct 2011 9:45 a.m. PST

Slightly more thrust …

Mako1131 Oct 2011 2:38 p.m. PST

Can't recall 100%, but suspect the E variant is also referred to as the Mirage V, Barak, Dagger by the Argentines, etc.

It has a more powerful engine, longer nose (as shown in the pic above), and no air-to-air radar. The radar in it is a small ground navigation model.

Kaoschallenged31 Oct 2011 3:55 p.m. PST

I was hoping thew drawings would help :). Robert

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP31 Oct 2011 5:18 p.m. PST

Mako – no, the IIIE is very much a III, radar (indeed slightly better radar in most cases) and all – most had the Cyrano II radar instead of the IIIC's Cyrano I. The navigation radar (again usually fitted, but not always) was *as well* as the Cyrano, not instead of – it's in the little bulge underneath the cockpit, not in the nose cone. The IIIE was intended to be properly multi-role; primarily a strike aircraft but retaining the full fighter capability.

The V is longer still, and was essentially a development of an Israeli request for IIIEs with the expensive and bulky avionics stripped out, cos Israel gets less crummy flying weather than France….

Kaoschallenged31 Oct 2011 7:30 p.m. PST

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Mirage V

I have read the difference was the removal of the nose Radar,increased internal fuel capacity and the addition of two more weapons hard points. Robert

Lion in the Stars01 Nov 2011 2:44 a.m. PST

Hrm… So really about as much visual difference as there is between an F16 and a Mitsubishi F2, then.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Nov 2011 3:41 a.m. PST

Yep – different when you look for the differences, but at a glance, less so….

Mako1116 Nov 2011 11:31 a.m. PST

Ah, I see.

Always get those letter designations for the Mirage confused, especially with the multiple other names for them.

Thanks for the clarification Dom.

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