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Psyckosama16 Oct 2011 7:18 a.m. PST

Due to the messed up mispost of my last post… I'm going to repost it.

Well I've been bugging people for opinions long enough so I'd like to just post up what I've been working on. Still have a bunch of Germans and another tank to go, but tell me what you think so far!

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Pics came out a bit dark. It's lighter in person.

28mmMan16 Oct 2011 8:52 a.m. PST

Can I ask without being hated…but the actual model, the upper edges of the tank…the surface looks a bit…soft.

Almost as if the surface was made of uncured clay rather than metal.

No sharp edges or defined lines.

If this is the model then it is what it is, perhaps a few detail pieces added on that have fine edges would create the effect of distracting the eye?

As for the intended use, it looks like a great fit with your miniatures.

The dark image, I am no photo expert and I am sure one of our TMP brothers is and will pipe up soon, but I would avoid the light/flash sucking elements of the back and side cracks…use a large sheet of white paper and lay it down so it is continuous from top to bottom leaving a rounded back edge..and if you can use a shielded light (a bright lamp with a sheet of paper over the direct focus) it will help.

Looks good as a whole!

28mmMan16 Oct 2011 8:57 a.m. PST

That is an imposing main gun.

Gunner Dunbar Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2011 9:50 a.m. PST

yeah the gun came out great, it is very dark, but cameras can do that, I agree, add more stuff to it, stowage bins ect, good so far.

DyeHard16 Oct 2011 11:14 a.m. PST

I may be wrong on this, but I think the Jaguarundi is meant to be a model of a very late war German experiment at making tanks out of concrete instead of metal. As the resources were being cut off, it was harder to get the metal needed for tanks. I use to be a tank nut, but have lost most of my references. Hence the very intentional soft edges.
I think this photo will show that:

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Another example of proposed German tanks with alternative armor systems:
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Personally, I think can add to the Sci-Fi feel of this model as one can speculate on some form of ceramic foam or plati-steel armor might be developed for lighter vehicles.

28mmMan16 Oct 2011 11:17 a.m. PST

Interesting point.

Concrete tank…wacky.

Augustus16 Oct 2011 7:37 p.m. PST

Neato Psyckosama!

That Panther is just beautiful. Shermans often sported poured concrete armor as well as whatever anyone could find to help the poor things.

Foamed ablative armor is something being looked at by DARPA supposedly. As I understand it, it is to make "true" airdroppable armored vehicles. Of course, one wonders about the airborne aspect considering dropping anything has gone out of fashion.

Psyckosama16 Oct 2011 8:27 p.m. PST

I'd like to use this for the symbol on the vehicles and the like.

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Any ideas how to put that one them?

28mmMan16 Oct 2011 8:49 p.m. PST

Print them on decal paper and apply.

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Psyckosama17 Oct 2011 6:53 a.m. PST

Problem is those sheets probably won't show up well against the blackish background of my tanks.

28mmMan17 Oct 2011 11:53 a.m. PST

You need real advice from armor painters, which I am not. But I do have experience with black hull boats. I usually paint a place marker in white then lay the numbers/image directly over the same.

So paint a same size white spot then slide on the decal?

DyeHard17 Oct 2011 2:14 p.m. PST

Being a modeler as well as painting miniatures, Perhaps I can help:

As most printer do not print in white, a home printed decal would be lost on the dark background. The trick is to paint a white area on the model before applying the decal. You can solve several problems at once here. The rough surface is not ideal for a decal. Paint on a nice thick layer of a glass white paint. Perhaps a unthinned hobby enamel. The thick gloss will fill in the detail and make a good surface to receive a decal. It might take more then one coat of the gloss paint.

To avoid the hassle of getting decal paper and the added painting. You can do it the old fashion way. Mod-Podge.
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The basic idea is you have something printed on paper you would like as a decal. Paint it with Mod-Podge, cut it to size, soak it to soften the paper, rub most of the paper away and glue it to the model (Mod-Podge again).
Here is the first web ref I found, Just substitute the word "Model" for "egg"
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Bryan…

Psyckosama17 Oct 2011 7:58 p.m. PST

Considering that the background on those insignia is white…

Makes it much easier.

kabrank18 Oct 2011 6:11 a.m. PST

Hi All

Back to history. According to Jentz Panzer Tracts the "Jaguarundi" hull was designed by Porsche and was to be of cast armor hence giving the slightly rounded and rough effect on the model [rather like the M4A1 or cast Russian Turrets]

Cast armor was intended to provide improved protection over the rolled armor used in the later war Panzers.

Concrete was used as a field applied addition armor by the Allies and Germans but was heavy for the protection given and tended to be applied by crews when additional metal was not available.

Hope this helps

Psyckosama18 Oct 2011 10:21 a.m. PST

Anyone want the quicky conversion instructions?

Psyckosama18 Oct 2011 6:57 p.m. PST

which of these do you think my tanks look better with?

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Or any other ideas and anyone have any pics of either of these with rulers?

Looking for an APC next.

(I make fun of others)19 Oct 2011 5:22 a.m. PST

Those are really splendid 1946 type vehicles DyeHard (or post 1946 one assumes). I think the bottom one is based on a video game or an animated film? Do you know which one?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2011 8:24 a.m. PST

Very cool !!!

(I make fun of others)24 Oct 2011 8:59 a.m. PST

Psyckosama, the models look pretty nice -- what colours do you intend to paint them?

BlackWidowPilot Fezian24 Oct 2011 11:09 a.m. PST

Karkwagen. The halftrack while nice is too techy compared to the Jaguarundi, while the Karkwagen has a more gritty look in line with the '46 concrete panzer design.

Just my two yuan's worth.evil grin


Leland R. Erickson

DyeHard03 Nov 2011 11:04 a.m. PST

Just as a follow up, here are some period drawings of the Type 245 on which the model is based. Scroll to bottom:
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nvdoyle03 Nov 2011 7:07 p.m. PST

Anyone want the quicky conversion instructions?

Yes, please!

Psyckosama03 Nov 2011 10:33 p.m. PST

PMed them to you. If you'd be so kind as to repost them here I'd appreciate it.

nvdoyle04 Nov 2011 3:29 a.m. PST

Reposting at Psyckosama's request:

Well it's rather simple actually. The gun is off a dollar store robot trimmed to fit with the "prongs" on the front cut off and the barrel drilled out. The vehicle is actually backwards with the paneling on the rear sanded down and a piece of plasticard taken off a for sale sign trimmed and glued in place (I suggest you place it first then run some superglue down it) and the eye is a piece of old GW sprew sanded to git at an angle. THe side skirts are plasticarf strips that were glued in place, trimmed to fit once they were secure, then the lines were carved in with a utility knife.

nvdoyle04 Nov 2011 3:31 a.m. PST

DyeHard, where'd you get that modded Panther?

DyeHard04 Nov 2011 11:38 a.m. PST

I did an image search. I do not recall which modeling form it is from. Perhaps Missing Lynx?
missing-lynx.com

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