Editor in Chief Bill | 12 Sep 2011 5:21 p.m. PST |
The current system for creating a poll is: 1. Member posts a proposal to the Poll Suggestions board. 2. TMP community discusses the proposal. 3. The moderator posts the poll when it reaches the top of the list, editing the proposal for presentation and content, discarding polls which violate TMP's community rules. Many other websites allow users to post their own polls, without moderator intervention. This process, if adapted for TMP, might work like this: 1. Member initiates forum discussion about a topic he thinks might make a good poll topic, and collects options. (optional) 2. Member posts poll, creating the question and options. 3. The server schedules the poll. 4. When the poll is run, if it violates TMP community rules, members can file complaints, and the moderator can take action (if needed). Should TMP convert to such an "automatic" poll process? * yes * no * no opinion |
Bob Hume | 12 Sep 2011 5:24 p.m. PST |
Absolutely not. Leave the system as it is. |
Florida Tory | 12 Sep 2011 5:39 p.m. PST |
No, the poll topics generate enough controversy as it is, with the pre-screening before posting. Rick |
korsun0 | 12 Sep 2011 5:56 p.m. PST |
Absolutely, definitely, positively not. |
PzGeneral | 12 Sep 2011 6:22 p.m. PST |
No Bill, leave this one as is
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SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER | 12 Sep 2011 6:27 p.m. PST |
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Allen57 | 12 Sep 2011 6:33 p.m. PST |
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ComradeCommissar | 12 Sep 2011 6:40 p.m. PST |
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Doctor X | 12 Sep 2011 6:43 p.m. PST |
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Derek H | 12 Sep 2011 6:44 p.m. PST |
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vojvoda | 12 Sep 2011 6:46 p.m. PST |
What SMC1 said
NO! VR James Mattes |
Steve Johnson | 12 Sep 2011 6:55 p.m. PST |
I have to echo the others and say "No." Steve |
JRacel | 12 Sep 2011 6:56 p.m. PST |
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Cosmic Reset | 12 Sep 2011 6:59 p.m. PST |
No, I think allowing us to post them directly is a recipe for a heap of unpleasantness. |
Lentulus | 12 Sep 2011 7:03 p.m. PST |
No, in fact I would like to see some way of the community rejecting the poll outright. |
21eRegt | 12 Sep 2011 7:12 p.m. PST |
No, it is bad enough now. This would be worse. |
jdpintex | 12 Sep 2011 7:42 p.m. PST |
Depends. Yes – if you want to/plan to lock a bunch of accounts. No – If you want some shred of control / decency about. Your site, you decide. |
Battle Phlox | 12 Sep 2011 8:04 p.m. PST |
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Editor in Chief Bill | 12 Sep 2011 8:24 p.m. PST |
Just giving options, that's all. |
Sundance | 12 Sep 2011 8:28 p.m. PST |
No, I think that would lead to more problems with polls rather than less! :o) |
Patrick Sexton | 12 Sep 2011 8:39 p.m. PST |
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headzombie | 12 Sep 2011 10:16 p.m. PST |
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Cerdic | 12 Sep 2011 11:28 p.m. PST |
That seems fairly conclusive
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RobH | 13 Sep 2011 1:57 a.m. PST |
No, leave this one as is. |
Angel Barracks | 13 Sep 2011 2:08 a.m. PST |
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Ed Mohrmann | 13 Sep 2011 2:43 a.m. PST |
No – and were it me (and it was at one time, since I ran a BBS site years ago), I'd delete altogether the ability to post polls. |
Mrs Pumblechook | 13 Sep 2011 5:03 a.m. PST |
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Jay Arnold | 13 Sep 2011 6:25 a.m. PST |
Make up your mind Bill. Either the inmates run the asylum or it's "Bill's house, Bill's rules." Frankly, I'd feel better if you removed yourself as the editor and take the role of publisher and take 2-3 moderators on to do the dirty work. You have obviously allowed personal bias and liberal interpretations of your rules to unfairly target particular members. For what reason, I don't know. Vendetta? Jollies? |
stenicplus | 13 Sep 2011 7:03 a.m. PST |
That way lies madness and death. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 13 Sep 2011 7:16 a.m. PST |
Make up your mind Bill. Either the inmates run the asylum or it's "Bill's house, Bill's rules." That's kind of silly. Since I own and have responsibility for this place, I'm always going to have the ultimate say on what goes on here. But that's not what this is about. This is about whether to take some of the training wheels off, and give TMP members a more direct role with regard to interacting with the website. Frankly, I'd feel better if you removed yourself as the editor and take the role of publisher and take 2-3 moderators on to do the dirty work. I've brought up the idea of using volunteer moderators before, and the feedback was extremely negative. Maybe it's time to bring that back up as a poll option, and see what the community thinks now? Alternately, I'm considering taking on a few hired hands. The major problem there, of course, is the expense
and the training
and adding further admin tools to the website to support them
You have obviously allowed personal bias and liberal interpretations of your rules to unfairly target particular members. For what reason, I don't know. Vendetta? Jollies? I'm not conscious of any vendettas, and I try to apply the rules as fairly as I can, but feel free to come to your own conclusions. On the other hand, beware what they say about judges
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Waco Joe | 13 Sep 2011 7:36 a.m. PST |
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Oldenbarnevelt | 13 Sep 2011 8:47 a.m. PST |
TMPers have shown they need training wheels. No. |
Grand Duke Natokina | 13 Sep 2011 11:13 a.m. PST |
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14Bore | 13 Sep 2011 12:45 p.m. PST |
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Grelber | 13 Sep 2011 7:00 p.m. PST |
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The Hobbybox | 14 Sep 2011 5:15 a.m. PST |
To be honest, I've never quite gotten the point of the posting the Poll subject as a discussion thread. That, in effect, ends up being a poll in itself as people end up discussing the 'meat' of the poll, rather than simply whether it should exist or not. I personally think that it would easier if people were able to submit a poll without discussing it, but that the editor was able to vet the polls before publishing. Discussing whether a poll should be poll seems a bit too much like naval gazing for me! |
Scorpio | 14 Sep 2011 5:23 a.m. PST |
Honestly, I'd rather see a little more editorial control over which polls get posted. Some are clearly more geared towards encouraging discussion as opposed to accounting the opinions of the community. And some are thinly veiled flames. And some are, you know, just a cheap joke. But because all are treated equally, there's a backlog of more than half a year, meaning by the time some legitimate polls make it to market, they're already out of date. |