"Best 28mm Historical Minis For WHFB Bretonnians?" Topic

I am considering getting back into Warhammer Fantasy Battle playing Bretonnians.

I have never been a fan of the newer style figures with their whole Franco-Arthurian bent and was thinking of going with the older style, Medieval French versions.

Does anyone have any good recommendations for ranges that would fit this? I'm okay with mixing ranges but would appreicate any comments on compatability between ranges suggested.

Thanks,

-Eli

Eli, I immediately thought of the Perry's own ranges but they're possibly too Late Medieval for your needs. Thinking Perry's then led me to Foundry! Perhaps some of their Medieval range would do.

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Regards, TC.

I had been leaning toward the Perry's as they offer both Hundred Years War and War of the Roses, both of which could easily fit for the "classic" version of Bretonnia in WHFB.

Bretonnia has always been a bit hard to figure in the older editions. The army sample in the old Warhammer Ancients was definitely a War of the Roses era army (heavy plate, troops in tights, etc) while the pictures provided in the army list art seemed to suggest an earlier medieval army (barrel helms, tunics, and breeches).

This is further complicated by the miniatures that were released before 4th/5th Edition which consistent with European armies just toward the end of or after The Crusades (some kite shield, connical helms, skull caps, etc).

-Eli

Have never played WH but have bought a few models/sets and kept an eye on most of the ranges. I have to say the way Bretonnia has been developed just baffled the crap out of me! Especially as the Empire evolved "realistically". I've a feeling Orcs will make more progress than Bretonnians! Still, it's Fantasy, after all.
Cheers, TC.

I am tempted to go with War of the Roses as a core as that would at least be a bit more contemporary with the Empire. HYW troops could be used as more provincial Betonnian troops or to add flavor.

-Eli

Certainly plenty of quality/adaptable choices going that route. Cool, hope you get the army together!
TC.

"The army sample in the old Warhammer Ancients was definitely a War of the Roses era army (heavy plate, troops in tights, etc)…"

And those, originally Citadel Miniatures, are now Foundry's WotR/Burgundian range. So using the Perry plastics would be bringing it full circle. Plus looking more contemporary to the Empire is a plus.

Allen

Allen,

I knew you were good people .

I am a definite fan of the old school Bret.

How do Old glory and Perry scale up?

-Eli

Depends on the Old Glory range. For example, the OG Italian Wars range (Italians and Swiss) is not bad (for late medievals), but will look very clunky in style next to the much more slender Perry WoTR figures. They go better with the (Perry-sculpted) Foundry Swiss:

I don't have many (any?) OG WotR. TMPer DeanMoto's suggest that they will be a closer match for the Perry plastics, but will still be quite different in style:

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This comparison thread may be useful (?):

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Allen

If you want either HYW or WotR figures to have a bit more of a GW scale/proportions, I think there are several places to look.

Front Rank makes both HYW and WotR ranges. Their figures are a little more "plump" or "heroic" looking (depending on your definitions.)

Crusader also has both HYW and WotR ranges. The infantry are a bit smaller & more lean than even the Perry or OG figures (though they are very nice sculpts!) but the cavalry from the WotR line (possibly the HYW line as well -- I never got any of those) are very large, almost comparing with GW or my next option…

Renegade recently released a WotR line. I don't have any, but my experiences with their other ranges is that they are about the closest thing you can get to a GW scaled/proportioned figure from a historical range.

I like the Perry figures, but they will be smaller. Same with Mirliton's "Fantasy" humans, which are good as historicals for the second half(ish) of the 15th century in western Europe and also nice. The OG WotR and HYW figures will also be small. (Or at least what I remember of the OG HYW – it's been a very long time since I painted an early war army for someone.) The OG cav are *especially* small compared to some of the other lines.

A couple more pics below to illustrate some of these (and other) manufacturers. I realize they are not all from the pertinent ranges, but hopefully this gives an idea. Some of these pics used to be in one of Allan's links above, but at some point I think I shuffled around the hosting and they disappeared from the forum.

Thomas
ZeroTwentythree
zerotwentythree.blogspot.com

Thanks, Thomas! I remembered those others, particularly the pikemen, but couldn't find where they'd gone.

Allen

Great pics and very useful. Really it doesn't look like thee is all that much variance one way or another. Heck, even within GW's own line there is variation in style and size.

-Eli

Well the comparison shots that are on here are what I have been looking for. I am looking beyond GW for my miniature fix and this post helps greatly. Thanks a bunch for those who have posted out there. I should have known that 023 would have these pics out there.

This post is rather useful I was about to post asking for ideas for manufacturers that would be good for a fantasy army. I was thinking I like knights and WotR era but add some more fantasy elements (airships very renaissance like, asge of wonder kind of thing) but can only find Barbarian types as humans. Are there any good 15mm manufacturers or is 28mm a better option (although I find the style I want even harder to find in 28mm)! cheers

15mm War of the Roses and/or 30YW? lemme check…

QRF: link

Khurasan: link

And Eureka has Irregular and Museum miniatures for sale: link

I'm sure there are others, as well, but Eureka, Khurasan, and QRF are my regular 15mm suppliers (with minis in that time-period).