| Renaud S | 15 Aug 2011 5:17 a.m. PST |
Were their shapes specific to each army? Some figure manufacturers chose to give Prussians a flatter tricorn than the other nations. Is it historically grounded? Do we have surviving examples? |
| Sysiphus | 15 Aug 2011 5:22 a.m. PST |
Wouldn't the shape, whatever it was, fall prey to the vagaries of the campaign? |
| Cardinal Hawkwood | 15 Aug 2011 5:43 a.m. PST |
as the century progresses the tricone becomes "flatter" |
| adster | 15 Aug 2011 5:51 a.m. PST |
The Prussians were certainly known for the stinginess of the cut of uniforms, this probably carried over to smaller tricornes too. |
ge2002bill  | 15 Aug 2011 7:44 a.m. PST |
In the SYW the shape is triangular.
Equalateral that is.
The trend toward bicornes was a later development.
IIRC, this comes from Christopher Duffy – somewhere.
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If you can find the painting of the Prussian Guard advancing across a snowfield (War of Austrian Succession I think) you will see what I am talking about. Officers.
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That said, sometimes there is no choice for us given decisions made by figure designers/artists – especially for Prussians. They often think the tricorne was less triangular on the way to becoming bicornes.
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Respectfully,
Bill |
 Der Alte Fritz  | 15 Aug 2011 9:13 a.m. PST |
I've never seen any figure manufacturer actually depict the tricorn worn at a cocked angle so as to avoid having the musket knock the hat off of the head whilst in the march attack position. |
| Graf Bretlach | 15 Aug 2011 2:13 p.m. PST |
Yes I always assumed this was the case because all the manufacturers do that, but I did read somewhere (?) that they only got flatter after the SYW. drawings made before 1763 are what we need for sure. |
| olicana | 15 Aug 2011 2:20 p.m. PST |
The Prussians were certainly known for the stinginess Very true. For the veterans hospital the King ordered that shirts, etc. should be made with right / left sleeve missing and 'trousers' with left / right leg missing to save on cloth. Frederick also said "Men are like lemons – to be squeezed." |
| Cardinal Hawkwood | 15 Aug 2011 2:32 p.m. PST |
there aren't many drawings made before 1763..indeed most of the drawings and paintings we like to rely were done in the 19th C.or later..that said my reading backs ge2002bill and yes DAF, somewhere in Duffy he says that troops had one curl less on the right side of their head so as to allow them to cock the hat ..figure manufacturers, can you ever trust them to get it 100% right?
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| Cardinal Hawkwood | 15 Aug 2011 2:46 p.m. PST |
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| historygamer | 15 Aug 2011 3:58 p.m. PST |
There is a surviving example of a French one in Les Invalides (sp?) Museum. French tricornes seemed to have larger brims that the British ones. Yes, the Prussian ones are usually portrayed as smaller during this period. Hats were usually issued each year, just like uniforms. They usually arrived uncocked, and men were dismissed to cock them before issue. |
| andygamer | 15 Aug 2011 9:17 p.m. PST |
The evolution of Prussian hats:
link [Scroll down past the Giant Grenadier mitres.] |
paints brigs for the British fleet.
