Frederick  | 14 Aug 2011 4:36 p.m. PST |
Fellow TMPers – a quote often attributed to Napoleon is "Never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake" Now, I have read that the Emperor said a variant of this on the eve of Austerlitz – but there is some debate that he actually did. There is a school of thought that says that John Milton was the one who said this, but I have two problems with this: i) just doesn't sound like Milton ii) it has been suggested as coming from Samson Agonistes (about line 559-561 or so) – and from what I can remember of Samson Agonistes (one of those horrible ordeals that constitute a classical education) there is nothing in it that corresponds to the quote The opinions of the Napoleonic geniuses among the group are greatly appreciated |
aecurtis  | 14 Aug 2011 6:10 p.m. PST |
Indeed; where's the connection? link Allen |
| NBATemplate | 14 Aug 2011 6:14 p.m. PST |
There certainly seems to be nothing like that in Samson Agonistes (I've searched through the text). This discussion page considers in some detail the idea that Napoleon said it or something like it: link Cheers, David nba-sywtemplates.blogspot.com |
| Clovis Sangrail | 14 Aug 2011 6:31 p.m. PST |
Isn't this quote usef in the film "Waterloo?" |
| Jeigheff | 14 Aug 2011 6:50 p.m. PST |
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| Grizzlymc | 14 Aug 2011 7:22 p.m. PST |
Well, he damned well should have! |
| Sparker | 14 Aug 2011 7:53 p.m. PST |
Oh yes one of Rod Steiger's best -it was on film, in colour so it must be true:
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aecurtis  | 14 Aug 2011 8:04 p.m. PST |
This was forwarded to me by a former TMPer; I hope I can get the formatting right! ______________ But perhaps the following will be of interest
"Attendons encore
. quand l'ennemi fait un faux mouvement, il faut se garder de l'interrompre." The quote appears to have been first published by the Baron de Jomini, in his "Vie politique et militaire de Napoléon" (1827). The quote itself: link Bio : link The Baron de Jomini served as a volunteer aide-de-camp to Maréchal Ney during the 1805 campaign, going with him into the Tyrol after Ulm – and so was not at Austerlitz for the battle. However, he is often said to have arrived at the headquarters of the Grand Armée with despatches from Maréchal Ney on the day after the battle. For example: link Whether the quote is a colorful creation of the baron de Jomini over twenty years after Austerlitz, or whether he was so struck by someone telling him of such an utterance by Napoléon that he recalled it 20 years later, would be a question open to discussion. _______________ Thanks for that, Evan! Allen |
| XV Brigada | 15 Aug 2011 2:23 a.m. PST |
Like the pic of the late Rod Steiger. We now need a caption competition – what is Nap saying? How about "Did I turn the iron off
." Bill |
| 4th Cuirassier | 15 Aug 2011 3:17 a.m. PST |
"You Klingon b*stards! You killed my son
!" |
| Brownbear | 15 Aug 2011 3:42 a.m. PST |
a dentist, a dentist, my empire for a dentist |
Dave Jackson  | 15 Aug 2011 4:30 a.m. PST |
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Dave Jackson  | 15 Aug 2011 4:31 a.m. PST |
Or, dare I
.."KHAAAAAAAN!" |
Frederick  | 15 Aug 2011 5:47 a.m. PST |
Great! Thanks to Allen for his ability to dig out the most hard to find facts – and to everyone for the insight, wisdom – and, of course, the humour |
| The Gonk | 15 Aug 2011 7:45 a.m. PST |
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| Captain Gideon | 15 Aug 2011 8:42 a.m. PST |
If you remember in the movie Napoleon(Steiger) said "Never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake that's bad manners eh" Captain Gideon |
| South Side Steve | 15 Aug 2011 9:07 a.m. PST |
Thats is not a flattering picture of Steiger |
| OldGrenadier at work | 15 Aug 2011 9:49 a.m. PST |
Someone shot him with a phaser set to "Oh cr@p I left the oven on!". |
| Supercilius Maximus | 15 Aug 2011 11:00 a.m. PST |
"Zut alors! First zee fermer ghiles, now zee meegren!" "What do you mean you didn't bring any bricoles?????" |
| SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER | 15 Aug 2011 11:04 a.m. PST |
The Gonk for the win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Big Red  | 16 Aug 2011 4:04 p.m. PST |
"Merde! Where'd I put the Guard?" "I'm taller than you think!" "That Ney gives me a pain in the . . . " "Mon Dieu, is that Blucher's elephant?" |