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jdpintex08 Aug 2011 11:23 a.m. PST

Does anyone know of a decent book/reference and/or link that provides dimensions of the various ACW brick style forts?

I have a good reference that shows the configuration but it doesn't have a scale nor a single measurement anywhere in it.

Even better would be if someone started producing forts in 1/600 scale….hint, hint.

Disco Joe08 Aug 2011 11:52 a.m. PST

Peter Pig makes Fort Sumter in 1/600 scale along with something they call a small fort with 3 guns. Not sure what that looks like though.

Dennis08 Aug 2011 11:59 a.m. PST

Pig forts here:

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and here:

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Oh, and batteries at Bay Area Yards:

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Dennis

Captain Swing08 Aug 2011 12:01 p.m. PST

There are some diagrams and dimensions (along with photos for the Civil War era; as well as fort details before and after that period) in "Fortress America" by Kaufmann and Kaufmann:

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Given up for good08 Aug 2011 12:04 p.m. PST

Osprey have a series of books on forts and defences during the ACW – link seems a good match

No plans but some interesting info can be found link

I think link is great to look at but not to scale!

Andrew
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The G Dog Fezian08 Aug 2011 12:20 p.m. PST

Two references;

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The Atlas of the Civil War had a number of profiles and cross sections of various fortifcations that might prove useful.

And TCS did a nice representation of Sumter that was roughly 1/600. Along with a large earthen battery.

Thoroughbred does some nice items.

BAY does some additional earthworks.

Sundance08 Aug 2011 6:29 p.m. PST

Thoroughbred Minis does a fort or two and a couple of different kinds of batteries in 1/600.

Battle Cry Bill08 Aug 2011 7:48 p.m. PST

Fort Pulaski in Savannah Georgia is a great example. Here are some links. There are some books too (I didn't buy them when I was there) but the Pulaski bookstore would have something. I got a nice scale map when I visited too.

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Fort Monroe is another example. Here are some links for that. (Sorry, no ready scale.)

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There is a great sand fort to visit to, just south of Savannah, Fort McCallister. I have always wanted to build a model of this one. Sherman took the fort and thus made it to the sea.

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This last one has a nice scale.

Have fun.

Bill

jdpintex09 Aug 2011 6:39 a.m. PST

Thanks guys.

I have the various batteries, I was trying to focus on the brick forts. I think a combination of The Atlas of the Civil War and scale from google maps might be a good start, along with the details from some of these links.

I wasn't aware that TCS had made a copy of Ft. Sumter.

I really appreciate the links.

The G Dog Fezian09 Aug 2011 10:20 a.m. PST

I wasn't aware that TCS had made a copy of Ft. Sumter.

Cast in resin. Mine is close to 20 years old at this point (picked it up at Cold Wars or Historicon back around '93 or '94).

Chris PzTp10 Aug 2011 6:28 p.m. PST

Several years ago while in Charleston SC I purchased a very detailed cast model of Ft Sumter from the gift shop at Patriot's Point. To figure out what scale it was I wrote to the National Park Service at Fort Sumter to get the dimensions of their fort. (My model turned out to be around 1/800 scale.)

Here's the dimensions they gave me:

The longest wall, the 'gorge' (at the back), is 319 ft.

The two flanks are each 171 ft.

Between each flank and the gorge are two 'gorge angles,' 22 ft for the one closer to the gorge and 26 ft for the one closer to a flank.

Each of the two front 'faces' is 190 ft.

Between each face and the flank on its side is a 'shoulder angle' that's 25 ft.

Between the two faces, at the fort'd point, is a 'salient angle' of 26 ft.

The G Dog Fezian10 Aug 2011 8:00 p.m. PST

Hmmm…my resin fort may not be TCS and is definitely not Sumter…

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Scafcom1 Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2011 11:53 a.m. PST

Funny you should ask, BAY will be releasing Fort Jackson and Fort St. Phillip shortly.

Steve

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