CptKremmen | 08 Aug 2011 5:08 a.m. PST |
Hi there, I am painting up a Saxon army for Saga and wondered about the unit sizes. I know they are 4/8/12 but wondered how that applied to Saxons? Are the Select Fyrd an 8 man unit? General Fyrd a 12 man unit? Huscarles a 4 man unit? Or something like that?? Ta Andy PS Thanks for previous advice on my Normans |
Serotonin | 08 Aug 2011 5:31 a.m. PST |
IIRC from my game at Salute Huscarls = 4 Thegns/Select= 8 Fyrd= 12 |
MikeHobbs | 08 Aug 2011 6:20 a.m. PST |
hi CptKremmen for Saxons you can field your Huscarls with 2 handed axes or with shield and hand weapons other then that your breakdown is correct also your warlord gets a 2 handed axe as well Mike |
SDallimore | 08 Aug 2011 4:39 p.m. PST |
Are the rules out yet? Would be interested in having a look. |
Derek H | 09 Aug 2011 2:20 a.m. PST |
September for the rules, or so I was told on Saturday. |
evicatos | 09 Aug 2011 2:57 a.m. PST |
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barcah2001 | 09 Aug 2011 5:07 a.m. PST |
Sounds and looks interesting. Can the system be used for recreating larger battles like the Alfred or Brian Baru vs Norse? Hastings? |
axabrax | 09 Aug 2011 9:19 a.m. PST |
I think they are a skirmish set |
barcah2001 | 09 Aug 2011 9:52 a.m. PST |
The term used by the authors is mid-scale skirmish---would that cover a viking "great army" of 600 men? |
Derek H | 10 Aug 2011 2:06 a.m. PST |
From my limited experience I think 600 would be stretching things a bit. Normal game would be under 60 figures a side. |
00 JET 00 | 24 Aug 2011 5:38 p.m. PST |
So just to be clear, one point would purchase
4 Huscarls/Thegns 8 Select Fyrd 12 Fyrd Do the different types of weapons matter? I thought from an earlier thread that it didn't matter whether or not a model was armed with great axe, a sword, or a spear
is that right? Also, the Vikings have Berserkers, the Normans have mounted knights and crossbowmen. Do the Saxons have anything special? Finally, are there any skirmishers in the Saxon list? If so, what would they be armed with. The thing is, my friend's model collection (from which I will be choosing models to paint) has lots of Saxon and Viking models in it. I'd like to know more about the Saxon list before I commit one way or another. Thanks, Jason |
MikeHobbs | 25 Aug 2011 2:34 p.m. PST |
if you are doing a Saxon warband then your Huscarl units and warlord can have double handed Dane axes which reduces the armour of your opponent (unfortunately it also reduces the armour of the unit with the axes) |
Studio Tomahawk | 26 Aug 2011 1:51 a.m. PST |
Saxon Levies (Great Fyrd or Geburs)are armed with bows or slings, which in game terms doesn't make a difference. You can even mix slings and bows in the same unit if you fancy. SAGA is meant to recreate small skirmishes with up to 70 models per side, though the rulebook offers the option of fielding larger warbands of 8, 10 and 12 points. For larger battles, Gripping Beast is currently develloping their own large battle system. This battle system will share some concepts with SAGA, but will be a game of its own. No release date though. Hope it helps. |
00 JET 00 | 26 Aug 2011 2:37 a.m. PST |
Actually, both of your answers helped significantly. Could javelin be included with bows or slings? I only ask because I have gripping beast gebur models, some of which are javelin-armed.. Thanks again guys. |
MikeHobbs | 26 Aug 2011 10:30 a.m. PST |
the thing to remember with Saga is each unit is taken to be armed with a single weapon choice, so you could get away with having a mix of figures in a unit as long as you and your opponent know what the unit is armed with. hope that makes sense? |