flicking wargamer | 25 Jul 2011 11:22 a.m. PST |
I am getting to the point where I have enough 6mm ACW stuff painted to start working on the table for them to fight on, and I can't find trees small enough. I know GHQ makes 6mm trees, but I have not seen them in use and don't know how many you get in the package to get brave enough to just order them. In the few 6mm games I have played the GM just used a few trees and outlined the woodline so we could move trees out of the way as needed and just suggest wooded areas. So what do people use and where do you find them? |
SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER | 25 Jul 2011 11:26 a.m. PST |
In 6mm forests. I'll be back with links. Magister Militum magistermilitum.com The other place is on Hiatus. |
Sundance | 25 Jul 2011 11:31 a.m. PST |
Use the smallest model railroading treesyou can find – best deals for them are usually on the model rr sites. You can get 3/4" – 1 1/2" tall trees that work perfectly with microarmor. |
Saber6 | 25 Jul 2011 11:31 a.m. PST |
use N-scale RR Trees (Woodland Scenics). GHQ used "bump" chenile (cut at the narrow then in half) to make pine trees (darkest green works best) |
Dynaman8789 | 25 Jul 2011 11:45 a.m. PST |
If you have an AC moore nearby, go to their website and get one of their 40% off coupons (ours has one almost every week). The local one sells Woodland Scenics RR supplies, There is one pack that has a lot of trees (21?) for a great price using the coupon – you do have to put them together but that generally takes an hour or so. |
(Jake Collins of NZ 2) | 25 Jul 2011 11:55 a.m. PST |
Chinese shops on ebay like (and I'm not kidding) "wehonest". You can get hundreds for a modest outlay. |
St Anselm | 25 Jul 2011 12:20 p.m. PST |
Hi there, Architects of War produced a pdf " HOW TO Make Forests and Woods for the smaller scales " Really easy to follow and make. I have made up loads from forrests to smaller clumps for 6mm. Im in the UK and got Warbases.co.uk to make some thin mdf bases and tops in irregular patterns with the tops about 1-2cm smaller than the bases and they worked really well.. a wee bit expensive outlay at first for the foliage but you can build loads. |
flicking wargamer | 25 Jul 2011 12:41 p.m. PST |
I do have to say that I would prefer to pay to pick up finished trees than to assemble anything. It is one of the reasons I do my model railroading in the desert southwest. |
Dark Knights And Bloody Dawns | 25 Jul 2011 12:46 p.m. PST |
How big is a tree? You can use any size you want as long as it looks right. I bought mine from Kallistra which they sell for 10mm figures but they look better with six. |
Sven Lugar | 25 Jul 2011 1:01 p.m. PST |
I make my own faster than I can go to the store & buy them & for a lot less money. The even look better. |
Given up for good | 25 Jul 2011 1:25 p.m. PST |
The ones I used link came from eBay seller everestmodel auction (note figures are 2mm Germy tanks etc) Many sizes – limited colours. Andrew Sic Parvis Magna Main site: blog.kings-sleep.me.uk |
20thmaine | 25 Jul 2011 1:47 p.m. PST |
I have stands of trees – and have used metal ones from Skytrex, Navwar (heroics) and Irregular. |
Mako11 | 25 Jul 2011 2:03 p.m. PST |
Woodlands Scenics ones work. For even cheaper ones, use gray-painted toothpicks, and buy some Woodland Scenics clump foliage. Stick a little white glue on the end of half a toothpick, and insert into a small clump. Base as desired, on pennies, washer, or plastic/metal bases. |
VonTed | 25 Jul 2011 3:57 p.m. PST |
6mm, go with z scale trees. Ebay is your friend (and wehonest is actually ok in my book) :) I got a ton of cheap trees from them awhile ago |
La Fleche | 26 Jul 2011 1:23 a.m. PST |
As Mako11 said – Woodland Scenics The best value are the 38pc packs Green Colors: link Fall Colors: link |
La Fleche | 26 Jul 2011 1:50 a.m. PST |
Here's some in action. Apologies for the poor quality of the photographer!
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Given up for good | 26 Jul 2011 2:47 a.m. PST |
@Le Fleche Can I ask how you glued the bush onto the twigs / trunk? I've been using the WS Tacky Glue on 15mm scale trees but find after a short time odd bits fall off. I did even try Scenic Cement to help bond the bits together but to no avail to date. Thanks Andrew |
Dynaman8789 | 26 Jul 2011 2:52 a.m. PST |
I've had the same problem, and the tacky glue never did get "non-sticky", is there something I can spray over top of it to make it stop? (while not having the foliage fall off of course) |
Sundance | 26 Jul 2011 6:03 a.m. PST |
A lot of people spray diluted white glue over (like Elmer's) over anything wiht foliage or flocking to keep it in place. Personally I don't like doing that – gives it a shiny finish and makes it look hard (which it does get hard) but it is generally very good at keeping the flocking in place. |
La Fleche | 26 Jul 2011 6:32 a.m. PST |
Here's how I do it: Firstly I remove any clump foliage that appears loose or unnaturally "dangly". Secondly I use Superglue to glue the trunk to the plastic base. Then I use epoxy resin to glue the tree to a galvanised washer – 20mm diameter for the 3/4in trees, 25mm for the larger trees (like the one in the picture). Next I paint PVA over the top of the washer up to the edge of the tree's plastic base and sprinkle over beach sand. When dry I follow with another coat of PVA and sand, this time covering the plastic base up to the tree trunk and again sprinkle beach sand. When the PVA sand mix is dry I paint the base a dark brown then drybrush a tan colour. A bit of dark grey paint on the trunk covers any whitening from the Superglue fumes as it hardens. Next step is to blob some PVA about and apply static grass. The final step is to give the tree a good thick coating of matt varnish to seal everything up, hold everything together, and stop the tacky glue from being tacky.
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Dynaman8789 | 26 Jul 2011 6:37 a.m. PST |
Thanks, I'll try the Matt varnish to see if it does the trick. After fixing up my existing trees of course (some flock has come loose
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KatieL | 26 Jul 2011 6:47 a.m. PST |
I dunk the trees into blended turf. It sticks to the sticky part of the still sticky sticky glue making it less sticky because now it's got something to stick. |
La Fleche | 26 Jul 2011 6:48 a.m. PST |
Oh, and to Andrew Beasley, the WS TS1570 trees I use come with the clump foliage pre-glued to the plastic "tree", with liberal amounts of "tacky glue". If I had to glue it on myself, I would probably use liberal amounts of Araldite. You could even try Bostik or maybe UHU. |
Given up for good | 26 Jul 2011 8:53 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the info and walk through Andrew |
Timbo W | 27 Jul 2011 9:50 a.m. PST |
A cheap and easy option is to use a big clump of lichen to represent a wood. Useful if you need to cover large areas, which you might need to do in ACW. Not as nice as the trees above though. |