"Osprey Roman Centurions volumes 1 and 2 with covers..." Topic

Two volumes about centurio?

That's a bit OTT even by Osprey's current standards.

Not really, their next books are "Footwear of the Third Reich," Volumes 1-4, covering each theater, and campaign from 1939 through 1945.

They look interesting – if nothing more than as eye candy for the pictures.

Excellent, I like Giuseppe Rava's style.

"Two volumes about centurio?"

Centuriones.

"That's a bit OTT even by Osprey's current standards."

Nope. Sorry.

As to the rest, I shall stand mute.

Allen

I can't wait for Osprey 100062:
"Roman Military Toiletries and sponge wipes" on pre-order at Amazon.

I did get the Early Roman Warrior volume in the mail? Why? I reckon that way I can see all the illustrations before they get scanned and ripped off on the Rome Total War forums.
JJ

"I did get the Early Roman Warrior volume in the mail?"

I haven't. Care to give me a run-down? Privately is fine, if you're going to be awfully critical!

Allen

I must admit that I haven't explored the chariot version… certainly appropriate for "having to go" … :)

Of course the great Ron Embleton rendered the military facilities best:

I must admit that I am interested in these Ospreys because G. Rava can be visually entertaining….

Thanks for the toilets link, I did not know about that book.. now I do…
JJ

"Care to give me a run-down? "

------> Man, you are so cruel. I had to wait in a waiting room so I forced myself to read the parts between the small print areas that describe the colour plates. I must admit I buy Ospreys for entertainment value mostly, look at the pictures, read the whole text if I am interested in some tidlybit that help me with my hobbies.

The plate labels are fairly brief, and the text in between the other overly large and commonly seen in other works photos is thin on facts, or even fiction.. in fact it is mostly directed at saying our sources don't deal with fact, so we are not going to bother much here with any of that. So without hardly a discussion of the Romulans or the raping of Sabine women (even though depicted in a generic plate), or even a mention of Horatius… instead it's you know --these clan wars were about energetic men with strong odors and it's all about redistribution of wealth. Swords came from daggers, and spears evolved from sharp pointy sticks fire hardened so they can poke through the cuir boulli.

Moving onto the Servian legion he states it's a phalanx with two hoplite ranks and the lesser armored in back.. so the round shielded dudes get pushed by the square shielded dudes further back… this doesn't seem to be an adequate enough description (given the amount of debate and differing points of view)… The author does admit to phalanx warfare beign a bit of a chestnut….. gleefully the text just abruptly ends on page 64 when the author has fulfilled his contractual obligation to word count.
However, I do give credit that somebody could manage to fill in the contractual limits without stooping to massive quotes of exciting sections of Livy, but instead we are left wondering why the text was needed at all. As for the pictures they are ok… nothing as good as Connelly did… the same subjects too. How many paintings of goofy hairdo Romans do we need passing under the yoke? I reckon most of the plates of Romans losing battles (+1!!)…. so I guess the point here is don't be in a lousy phalanx…… of course there is no discussion of what comes next as I'm certain that is reserved for the next volume.
So like a magazine it will go on the recyle pile if there is no reason to cut out the illustrations for future scanning.
JJ

"Care to give me a run-down? "

------> Man, you are so cruel. I had to wait in a waiting room so I forced myself to read the parts between the small print areas that describe the colour plates. I must admit I buy Ospreys for entertainment value mostly, look at the pictures, read the whole text if I am interested in some tidlybit that help me with my hobbies.

The plate labels are fairly brief, and the text in between the other overly large and commonly seen in other works photos is thin on facts, or even fiction.. in fact it is mostly directed at saying our sources don't deal with fact, so we are not going to bother much here with any of that. So without hardly a discussion of the Romulans or the raping of Sabine women (even though depicted in a generic plate), or even a mention of Horatius… instead it's you know --these clan wars were about energetic men with strong odors and it's all about redistribution of wealth. Swords came from daggers, and spears evolved from sharp pointy sticks fire hardened so they can poke through the cuir boulli.

Moving onto the Servian legion he states it's a phalanx with two hoplite ranks and the lesser armored in back.. so the round shielded dudes get pushed by the square shielded dudes further back… this doesn't seem to be an adequate enough description (given the amount of debate and differing points of view)… The author does admit to phalanx warfare beign a bit of a chestnut….. gleefully the text just abruptly ends on page 64 when the author has fulfilled his contractual obligation to word count.
However, I do give credit that somebody could manage to fill in the contractual limits without stooping to massive quotes of exciting sections of Livy, but instead we are left wondering why the text was needed at all. As for the pictures they are ok… nothing as good as Connelly did… the same subjects too. How many paintings of goofy hairdo Romans do we need passing under the yoke? I reckon most of the plates of Romans losing battles (+1!!)…. so I guess the point here is don't be in a lousy phalanx…… of course there is no discussion of what comes next as I'm certain that is reserved for the next volume.
So like magazine it will go on the recyle pile if there is no reason to cut out the illustrations.
JJ

Well it didn't take long for this to end up in the toilet!