Le Bovin | 12 Jul 2011 3:41 a.m. PST |
Hi everyone; I'm currently starting a new miniature scale, 6mm, and I'm now confronted with the most serious of questions: Should I glue the turrets on the tanks or not? Gaming-wise, I understand perfectly the "need" to leave the turret free, but 6mm turrets are soooo small and their cannons are soooo thin
So, Do you microgamers glue the turrets on or not? for main battle tanks? for scout or infantry fighting vehicles? |
Cosmic Reset | 12 Jul 2011 3:55 a.m. PST |
I built wooden storage boxes that house between 800 and 1100 vehicles each. The first time I took one to a convention and had to match up a 1000 turrets with their hulls, I decided I was glueing them down. twenty-three years later, I haven't it. |
Angel Barracks | 12 Jul 2011 3:58 a.m. PST |
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Gaz0045 | 12 Jul 2011 4:17 a.m. PST |
Glue- I have had to delay the start of games whilst i sorted and fixed the turrets to various tanks, even 10/20 turrets can take awhile- especially if thet are from similar (think Russian!) vehicles
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Martin Rapier | 12 Jul 2011 4:19 a.m. PST |
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Bezmozgu7 | 12 Jul 2011 4:26 a.m. PST |
Glue; I use pointers/markers (short lengths of wire) to indicate the direction turrets are facing if different from the turret glued to the model. |
elsyrsyn | 12 Jul 2011 4:26 a.m. PST |
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Paul Hurst | 12 Jul 2011 4:44 a.m. PST |
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ODGW Kenny | 12 Jul 2011 4:45 a.m. PST |
I use poster tack (blue tack?) to keep the turrets on. A small pinch keeps them on the vehicles and still enables moving them. |
Frederick | 12 Jul 2011 4:52 a.m. PST |
I glue them all – we play grand tactical and the turret facing is not too important – plus we usually have 300+ vehicles per side, so hate to be sticking on turrets (as noted above) |
Bellbottom | 12 Jul 2011 4:58 a.m. PST |
Either blu tac or glue as suits you. Incidentally I designate troop command vehicles by pointing gun barrels diagonally right, and company and higher command by pointing gun barrels diagonally left. Makes it easy to check where your command is at, or if it is destroyed. Of course you need some rules with a random hit table to avoid unscrupulous opponents firing everything at the command elements! |
John Armatys | 12 Jul 2011 5:08 a.m. PST |
Don't glue unless very small, like ODGW Kenny I use blue tack. |
Le Bovin | 12 Jul 2011 5:47 a.m. PST |
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Historicalgamer | 12 Jul 2011 5:56 a.m. PST |
After 20 years, I started gluing them. Too much hassle if not done. |
Beowulf | 12 Jul 2011 6:27 a.m. PST |
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Angel Barracks | 12 Jul 2011 6:54 a.m. PST |
Unless the rules require you to actually turn the turret why leave it lose? |
No longer can support TMP | 12 Jul 2011 7:20 a.m. PST |
Glue for the reason that Angel Barracks mention. The rules I play with use the general facing of the vehicle to determine flanks etc, so the direction of the turrent doesn't matter. |
slugbalancer | 12 Jul 2011 7:23 a.m. PST |
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NoBodyLovesMe | 12 Jul 2011 8:38 a.m. PST |
Stuck down, but facing forwardish in random directions. I hate the parking lot look :) |
GreyONE | 12 Jul 2011 11:10 a.m. PST |
Depends on the minis, and perhaps the rules too. On my tanks I noticed that the post the protrudes down from turret is about 4mm longer than the thickness of the vehicle. This means the post protrudes 4mm on the underside of the vehicle. I chose to use a soldering gun and melted the end, thus preventing the turret from falling out, but still allowing them to rotate. In the game rules I use, turret facing is important. E.H.
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Space Monkey | 12 Jul 2011 12:26 p.m. PST |
Sticky tac for me as well
except for the really itty bitty stuff. |
The Monstrous Jake | 12 Jul 2011 1:54 p.m. PST |
Like several others who posted above, I started out not gluing the turrets down. Sorting all those loose turrets was a constant annoyance, but the main reason I started gluing the turrets down was to protect the gun barrels. In my experience, the guns suffer fewer bendings and breakings if the turrets are glued in place. |
Sundance | 12 Jul 2011 6:07 p.m. PST |
I don't glue – the rules we use require turning the turret. The blue tac is a good idea, though. I keep them in microarmor tank keepers so the turrets don't rattle around loose, but before I learned about them, I had a mess with four or five varieties of Shermans and different turrets on each one! |
quidveritas | 12 Jul 2011 6:38 p.m. PST |
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cherrypicker | 12 Jul 2011 8:19 p.m. PST |
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helmet101 | 12 Jul 2011 9:12 p.m. PST |
all glued and based, never had a regret since then |
platypus01au | 13 Jul 2011 1:49 a.m. PST |
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BuckeyeBob | 13 Jul 2011 7:46 a.m. PST |
solder carefully used my soldering iron to attach a small bead of solder to the turret peg after inserting it into the vehicle hull. Turrets rotate and don't come off. then when turret pegs were consistantly too short or made from alloys, I'd cut them off flush with the turret, drill a small hole and superglue a small brad to it after inserting the brad thru the hull. The turret could still be rotated and the brad head kept the turret on. |
dmebust | 13 Jul 2011 9:15 a.m. PST |
I have some 1/300 SciFi that I took the time to drill a hole in the turret and throught the hull so I could use a small tacking nail up throught the hull (head against the bottom of the hull) and glue the turret to the nail. Not only is it glued but the turret will rotate! |
coopman | 13 Jul 2011 3:00 p.m. PST |
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ItinerantHobbyist | 17 Jul 2011 7:07 p.m. PST |
Glue – But the blue tak and solder ideas are cool. But I'll stick to gluing. |
Mark 1 | 17 Jul 2011 11:08 p.m. PST |
For 35 years now I have resisted gluing down turrets, except on the really small ones (like Russian T-60s or French R35s). If you have models that could be soldered (the peg sticking through the bottom of the hull), than a glob of white glue will have the same effect, but doesn't require a soldering iron. Just make sure to turn the turret a few times while it is drying. Easier, though, it just to use a tacky glue. Available at the crafts store. Just like white glue, but never really dries solid. Stays tacky, so you can remove the turret if you really want to, but it won't fall off on its own. Only marginally more convenient than poster tack, which works well too. -Mark 1 |
SatanicSturmgeschutz | 21 Jul 2011 3:47 p.m. PST |
Use UHU patafix and enjoy the best of both worlds.
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Poi000 | 22 Jul 2011 7:51 a.m. PST |
Glue for anything below 15mm. |
CAG 19 | 28 Jul 2011 12:35 p.m. PST |
I PVA Glue mine. If I decide to change later a quick soak in hot water and peel off and then free to do whatever. Si |
Khusrau | 30 Oct 2011 4:10 a.m. PST |
glue – random directions though |
12345678 | 02 Nov 2011 2:36 p.m. PST |
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hagenthedwarf | 18 Nov 2011 8:48 a.m. PST |
Interesting. When painted I find that the turret sticks to the main body but then I do not paint the turret as a distinct entity. |
11th ACR | 20 Nov 2011 5:33 p.m. PST |
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Das Schaeferhunde | 21 Nov 2011 8:52 a.m. PST |
Do not glue. Especially if you are commissioned to paint some tanks and the client has painstakingly drilled the turrets and inserted tiny neodymium magnets. Also please don't use Cyanoacrylate. |
Elohim | 21 Nov 2011 3:08 p.m. PST |
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