| IUsedToBeSomeone | 11 Jul 2011 3:50 a.m. PST |
The fastplay Renaissance rules Maximilian! written by Dan Johnson are now available from the Black Hat Miniatures website as a PDF for £6.00. The rules are a fastplay system for Renaissance gaming and include 30 army lists and reference sheets. link Many thanks Mike |
| Condottiere | 11 Jul 2011 4:38 a.m. PST |
I have the original or first edition from years ago. Are there any rules changes between the current edition and the first edition? |
| IUsedToBeSomeone | 11 Jul 2011 5:16 a.m. PST |
Yes, Dan took the opportunity to tidy up the rules and added more army lists. Mike |
| Condottiere | 11 Jul 2011 8:03 a.m. PST |
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| Arrigo | 11 Jul 2011 9:23 a.m. PST |
people who had stayed in the dark for so many years can be enlightened on the rules? |
| RobH | 11 Jul 2011 1:02 p.m. PST |
Arrigo, think DBA but actually with a feel for the period, armies and tactics. They are an excellent set of rules aimed very clearly at recreating a specific type of battle with specific types of troops/weapons. For gaming the Italian Wars up to the French Wars of Religion with modest numbers of figures you would be hard pushed to find a better set. |
| skinkmasterreturns | 11 Jul 2011 8:49 p.m. PST |
DBA-like,yes.The movement is more restrictive and in some cases seems unreasonable.Thats where house rules come in handy.Also the combat system is similar but different.Overall,a really fun game,we brought it out and were playing it while we get out Italian Wars armies for FoGR painted. |
| Phillius | 11 Jul 2011 9:12 p.m. PST |
Are the changes mentioned in this post different to the changes that came out in the second published edition? |
| skinkmasterreturns | 11 Jul 2011 10:51 p.m. PST |
Sorry,I meant in comparison to DBA. I've never played the 1st ed.I bought the second edition several years ago when it first came out. |
| IUsedToBeSomeone | 12 Jul 2011 1:51 a.m. PST |
Phillius, No, these are a PDF version of the second edition. As people have mention – DBA style in terms of play, but with changes for renaissance warfare, quick combat resolution and use 24 stand armies as standard. We play them a lot at the Guildford Club and have done a number of historical refights with them.
Mike
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| skinkmasterreturns | 12 Jul 2011 7:02 a.m. PST |
Our biggest quibble was with the movement,as I stated before. I can understand massed,formed pike units being only able to slowly wheel.However,loose order skirmishers and more open order units(I use the G. Gush army lists to define those) should be more free wheeling.I definately allow skirmishers to use sideways movement,as individual elements. |
| (I make fun of others) | 12 Jul 2011 2:38 p.m. PST |
"Maximilian!" Sounds like a musical based on the life of Maximilian I, written by Andrew Lloyd Webber. Why Maximilian as a title, of all potentates? Certainly not one of the greater warlords of the age. Perhaps just more evidence of pervasive teutonophilia amongst wargamers.  |
| Field Marshal | 12 Jul 2011 8:11 p.m. PST |
Maximilian was considered the father of the Landsknecht, the quintessential troops of the period plus he had the style of armour named after him that most gendarmes etc. of the period wore….He allied with Pope Julius II and Henry VIII against France ….His son was King in Spain and his grandson Charles would unite Spain with the HRE….so all in all a pivotal man of the period…. |
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