"Who Could Be Posed To Invade America In 10-15 Years???" Topic

Why would the Chinese invade Alaska for the oil? The EPA would never allow them to drill.

A Venezuela-led coalition of Central and South American countries, allied with Mexican drug cartels, aiming to retake the 'Spanish' West.

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Wait a second now! If this is an event 10-15 years into the future, why take it off the SF board?

And I'm sure that if I had only posted it in Modern, there would have been complainers saying that this topic was for near-future figures and should be SF.

I don't get it. I was really posting this topic so I could get input from people in those specific boards. It's not like I had posted this on a dozen unrelated boards.

This stinks. Screw it.

Dan
PS. So glad there's a delete option.

Article in the newspaper about a book titled "Unnatural Selection" which tells of abortion and infanticied of females in China and India which is leading to an imbalance in the ratio of males to females.

China and India team up and invade to capture our women?

"China and India team up and invade to capture our women?"

Point them to "People of Walmart". They can have them.

Allen

De wimmin of Wal-Mart is always lamentatin'.
I hate wimmin who is always lamentatin'.

"Why would the Chinese invade Alaska for the oil? The EPA would never allow them to drill."

Steven Segal will take care of them if they try…

The only culprit with the manpower would be China, but they won't have the power projection capability in 15 years, if ever, to cross the pacific and invade us in the teeth of the US Navy..

Once when I was 12 my brother and it got into a heated arguement in a department store about how many atom bombs it would take to destroy the world. Without saying much my dad cuffed us both in the head. At the time we had absolutely no doubt he smacked us for engaging in what he refered to as "crazy talk."

Since we would probably nuke our own perimeter oil field to render them strategically useless…. wondering who would be invading America…. and what they would be wearing while doing so.. would be… well…. "crazy talk."

Overwhelming hordes of Nerds

Nicaraguans and Cubans. All 10 million of them.

Nuttin' wrong dere when dey is always lactatin'. What? Oh … oh, lamentatin' … never mind.

Mexico.

And Libya.

And Iran.

Ya gotta give credit where credit is due.

Last I checked we're already under invasion and only Arizona is putting up any serious resistance. -Whistles innocently.-

Shakes his head and steps away from the keyboard.

Nods sagely at MJS' action….
BWW

Attack from within. (Cue sinister music). No I don't believe it either, but plenty seem to.

"Nicaraguans and Cubans. All 10 million of them."

Nonsense. Even an aging Chuck Norris can hold off a measly 10 million Nicaraguans and Cubans. He's done it before; he can do it again:

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Allen

Howard is a very wise man and author.

Canada of course.

Our Fifth column is already hard at work infiltrating your news and entertainment sections. We will get a few more involved in the finance section then we will be ready.

Of course we will be selective in what we choose . We will probably annex a number of western states Montana, the Dakotas, Minnesota ( mot Minneapolis) ,Northern Michigan, Washington and Oregon. If the ask nice we may also accept some of New England as well.

And as Canadians are so polite and always under the radar the Americans will not even know they are being invaded until it is too late.

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"Who Could Be Posed To Invade America In 10-15 Years???"

Debt collectors and bailiffs????

Release a suitably engineered virus (after innoculating your own people) and with 80-90% of the population dead and infrastructure collapse nearly anyone could walk in.

Okay, trying to keep this playable and hopefully useful…

If you want to be 'realistic', then in 10-15 years the only people who could be poised to invade America are…Americans. There's plenty of wedge issues about morality, governance, etc., to bring us to the point where we don't think we can get along very well any more. Add in the 'national security state mindset', and you've got a recipe for a terrible splintering with (most of) the Federal civilian apparatus on one side, some states allying with it, others against it, and the national military branches sundered as well.

If you're not worried overmuch about 'realism', but want some semblance of plausibility, there's a few other options.

China – overbearing 'diplomacy' gains them access to South Korean shipyards, and they turn the VLCCs into arsenal ships, aircraft and troop carriers. Hello New Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere. In 10-15 years they learn how to run trans-Pacific operations, and start with Hawaii. Alliance with Mexico/Canada gives them North American staging areas.

Mexico – Leftist alliances form with Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, and the US southern border is hostile, the Gulf is a contested mess, etc. Add in a splintered California (cities go Hispano-leftist, rural remains loyal) and you've got a real mess on your hands.

Mexico 2 – Mexico falls apart, as the northern states descend into chaos. Refugees flow north and south, the Mexican Federal government can't trust half of its army, the US government is slow to respond as the US Feds are bogged down in political infighting about how to respond. Confusion reigns on both sides of the Rio Grande as the border states become warzones.

AQ – The Foundation Thinks Big. Instead of showy attacks or encouraging individual jihadists, AQ goes back underground, and prepares. Weapons and ammo are stockpiled, recruits gathered and trained, workshops turn out bombs and rockets, biochem labs churn away. September 11th, 2026, they mobilize. Attacks in every major city, strikes against communications, police, general infrastructure leave much of the country paralyzed. A 5th column in the military hinders response, and it's going to take a long time to root them all out. Disaffected populations might choose life under Islam to be preferable to their previous situation.

(Note: I'm not taking a position on any of these. I'm trying to put forth a 'how' with a little bit of 'why'. They're supposed to be wargame scenario generators, not political statements. I hope I've achieved that.)

MapleLeaf has it right.

Those Imperialistic Canadians, eh!

"A Venezuela-led coalition of Central and South American countries, allied with Mexican drug cartels, aiming to retake the 'Spanish' West."

You forgot to add "aided by the 5th Column in our Universities and the Federal Governement"

Texas and other southern states in the 2nd American civil war.
Given the technology available it's not likely anyone could invade the US in a standard manner, but bit by bit via stealth, economy, sleeper agents etc that when ready disrupt the infrastructure of the country etc, yes it's feasible. Give it a longer time period and China, India etc will be the global powers and the US, UK and Russia etc will be the 'other players'.

Aliens, of course.

Vancouver, judging by the recent events.

Why, Great Britain of course. We won't fire a shot, we'll just be charming and possibly a little bit peculiar…

While fun to hypothesize I really doubt that invasion or civil war is a realistic possibility. There, now I have rained on the parade.

Canada.

We all know they are already poised at the border now, just waiting for us to let our guard down. Could happen any minute.

I think a European alliance hits the east coast, a conglomeration of nations invades from the south, and China and its new Asian allies hit the west coast, all at the same time.

Our only chance is to get the secret space lasers operational fast enough.

Hey, this would make a great boardgame!

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Great britain ? so it must happen on a 4th of jully ain't it ?

other options :

israelis : the day USA took off it's inconditional support to them ?

Kadaffi winning the game progressivly conquering the world at the head of his loyalists ?

frenchies : to "liberate" the 155 high politicals convinced of rapes in US and sentenced to death ? ( only one yet and not sentencied to death but then it's in 10-15 years ago so … )

Japan to settle new-tokyo before the islands sunk into troubled radioactives waters ?

vietnam : it took some time but this time roles are inversed ?

E-U after incorporating russia within and creating the E.U.S.S.R ?

World-Wide Hooligans Teams Parties … they were told that scoccer will become illegual because it bear a troubleshooting name doubling the one of true american sport ?

Pirates ? ( somalia in hudge scale including "coupeurs-de-routes" a.k.a land pirates armies )

aborigenals claiming the end of the american dream ( well the one , based on tech and money that is ) ?

lesotho rising up to act as david and taking the upper-hand ?

esquimos and inuits searching for new lands as the poles melts ?

Hobby Wargamers wishing to test if the rules they played are sufficiently over-detailled and well-written to give the same result in real ?

and so on…

or on a more realist scale : billions tourists spending their hard wons coins ?

The Irish- Luxembourg coalition of course!

Charlie Sheen

Belgians?

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The scenario doesn't need anything so crude as an invasion.

The takeover will be clandestine – orchestrated by the Masonic organizations, Illuminati & Bildeburgers who are, in their turn, the unwitting executive arms of the Sang Real/reptoid hybrid bloodlines.

A little manufactured false-flag scaremongering and your own security forces will provide all the muscle required to keep the country under severe repression 'for reasons of homeland security'.

Initial sedation will commence via contrail dispersion. Possibly a dose of the Pollutinator for those hard-to-reach Gulf of Mexico coastlines.
Stable therapeutic levels will be maintained by medicating the water supply and by subliminal broadcasts over the TV. It'll feel all warm and fuzzy.

Once you've all got your RFID implants everyone will be so much easier to keep track of, too!

'Sang Real/reptoid hybrid bloodlines'

Brilliant!

Thanks.

Allen57, Mars already beat them to it.

tea party.

Technically, Mexico already has, with far more than were ever landed at D-Day.

The Imperialistic Canadians covet our warmer weather, and sunny beaches…..

"Technically, Mexico already has"

Too true. Too true.

The Canadians just need to cut off your oil.

My money is on the Dutchy of Grand Fenwick.

Mexico some time in the next hundred years. Of course it will be by vote of the majority. With my luck someone will discover some drug to prolong life and I will life on in the body of an 90 year old with some caretaker swearing at me in Spanish every hour of the day. Oh well at least it will be better then some one swearing at me in English all day.

Not me, I am going to swap over to the body of a 14 year old with all my grumpy old knowledge. Rule 1, every one you dont get is one more you will never have. And my caretaker will not swear at me, she will whisper sweet nothings in my ear – language of her choice.

Canada – just saw the beacon in downtown Vancouver on the news!

Yer for it now ay?

"Hobby Wargamers wishing to test if the rules they played are sufficiently over-detailled and well-written to give the same result in real ?"

Lol. This made my day. Lets give it a try!