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Buckeye AKA Darryl03 May 2011 10:32 a.m. PST

Tony at East Riding Miniatures makes a small line of colonials(British infantry (1820-40), Coastal Arabs and Baluchis). Pardon my ignorance of things Coastal Arab, but what conflicts would these Brits and Arabs be used for? Are there other 15mm figures out there available to expand upon this small range if one needs British artillery, etc? And the Baluchis he offers in the same range, those chaps are Indian, yes? I would think they would NOT be used with Coastal Arabs, right? Help this poor ill-informed blighter!

link

Thanks!

Plynkes03 May 2011 11:02 a.m. PST

They look like 15mm versions of the Foundry "Darkest Africa" Arabs and Baluchis ("inspired by" is a good way to put it as they are obviously not direct copies).

So you could use them together in an East African context. The Swahili Coast was colonised by Arabs from Oman. In their armies served a large number of mercenary matchlockmen from various places around the Indian Ocean – Arabia, Persia, India, etc. They were known as "Baluchis" regardless of their actual origins.

So I guess you can also use them as actual Baluchis against those Brits for gaming the British conquest of Sindh in the 1840s.

Just thinking aloud, as it were, I can't say for sure what the manufacturer's intentions are here.

Cacique Caribe03 May 2011 11:33 a.m. PST

If they are what the name implies, they should be perfect as Indian Ocean pirates. Though, without pics, I can't be sure.

Hope they put up photos. Like many, I don't buy sight unseen from anyone any more.

Dan

Buckeye AKA Darryl03 May 2011 11:39 a.m. PST

I like your thought process here, Plynkes, but how much interaction did the Brits have in the 1820s-40s in East Africa? The British Empire website doesn't list any campaign in East Africa during the 1820s-40s:

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but do list a few in the Middle East:

link

I do have an email out to Tony about what his direction was for this, so let's see what happens. Thanks for giving me some ideas!

Buckeye AKA Darryl03 May 2011 11:41 a.m. PST

Dan,

There are two pics, one of the Arabs and one of the Brits, on the link above, but nothing else.

Also, I have asked in my email to Tony at ERM if there are plans for expansion.

Darryl

Plynkes03 May 2011 11:47 a.m. PST

"How much interaction did the Brits have in the 1820s-40s in East Africa?"

Not much. I wasn't considering that they might be designed as a matched pair of armies, but perhaps the start of a range that is intended to become larger, and cover a range of other diverse things.

Buckeye AKA Darryl03 May 2011 12:01 p.m. PST

Hmmm, yes, could well be!

Plynkes03 May 2011 12:19 p.m. PST

Aden and operations against the Pirate Coast would make sense (as listed on that link of yours).

Seem to remember some scenarios in one of the wargaming mags back in the early/mid 90s, unless I'm imagining things.

Henry Martini05 May 2011 8:01 p.m. PST

Those articles were no mirage, Plynkes. There was a series in MW extending over a couple of years on Bombay Marine operations against pirate strongholds on the Arabian peninsula. Sorry, but I don't know which issues off-hand.

Buckeye AKA Darryl10 May 2011 9:01 a.m. PST

Well, strangely, I've received no reply to my email from Tony at ERM. He's always been a timely communicator. Anyone else had any troubles contacting him?

Buckeye AKA Darryl10 May 2011 11:36 a.m. PST

Ah, got a timely reply to my second email, seemingly my first one did not get through to Tony at ERM.

He mentions that the British figures are intended for Aden/Persian Gulf in the 1830s and that the Arabs would be their foes, and could also be used for other things.

As for the range expanding, probably not. The designer has gone off on some other projects and it is doubtful if he will get back to the list of colonial items Tony had intended to have sculpted.

Bummer!

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